Comment by cjbgkagh

Comment by cjbgkagh 9 hours ago

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Having worked in corporate labs they really were great and it's a shame they're disappearing.

It's not only share buybacks, I would include offshoring, DEI, and a consolidation of management power as major factors in the destruction these labs. The pipeline has been so bad for so long now that it would take a miracle to get things started again.

The last org I worked at offshored the most promising work to China. Due to some high up international agreement the company had to spend $X on offshored workers so not only were they considered cheap they were considered free because the money had to be spent anyway and was coming out of someone else's budget.

I was working at a Research Org when the DEI push came through and it was a absolute disaster. A lot of projects ended their internship programs and avoided hiring in order to minimize the exposure. The bargain was always, you can have 6 seats but 50% need to be women and 50% need to be minorities, and since everyone got the push at the same time it meant that due to the intense competition for the same people you'd end up really having to scrape the bottom of the barrel. That made a lot of initiatives unviable.

I wasn't working at Yahoo Research but as I heard it was canned following a management rift. They were already bleeding talent for a while but had retained some good people that stayed out of comfort and inertia. The smart people cultivated in research orgs tend to be a competing source of power and management hates that.

fkyoureadthedoc 8 hours ago

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  • cjbgkagh 8 hours ago

    Since they don't make up 50% of the pipeline the enforced restriction necessitates hiring further down the ability rank even if you are to assume that all races and all sexes have the same ability / aptitude. And it also means for every non-minority male you need a minority female and those are very hard to get.

  • cocoto 8 hours ago

    If for instance higher ups from all companies require you to hire only whites with straight blond hair, a certain weight/size and with green eyes, you will quickly need to hire the bottom of the barrel of this group to expand your teams.

    • fkyoureadthedoc 6 hours ago

      So I hire a few aryan scrum masters and keep it moving. Usually in these fantasies people don't pick as blatant a number as 50% of their team needing to become black/women.

      Would still like to hear about how their already successful department was brought low by the black plauge, but he's not replying with actual details so I guess he didn't invent that much of the story yet.

      • cjbgkagh 6 hours ago

        Numbers were not invented, they were tied to management bonuses, numbers lower than that negatively impacted bonuses. Inhouse counsel were much more worried about disparate impact lawsuits than race quota lawsuits. There are many reasons why I, and others like me, can't post personal anecdotes publicly.

        Not absolutely everything was great before DEI, and DEI is not the only problem. I gave a number of other problems that have diminished the efficacy of research orgs.

        Corporate labs have now gotten so bad that I can outcompete them as an individual which would have been much more difficult in the past.