Comment by johnebgd

Comment by johnebgd a day ago

6 replies

Population decline and climate change impact may not provide enough surpluses in capital for specific areas to invest in reinventing various solutions unless AI makes the cost extremely low.

stego-tech a day ago

Everyone likes to trot out “bUt ThE cApItAl” as an excuse to justify their current thing they’re really into, but the fact is that every single time a cause becomes important enough to fund, we always find the money somehow.

This time will be no different. If your choices are sovereignty or subjugation, most organizations will fight for sovereignty when pressed beyond a breaking point or the math adds up in their favor. It might mean pulling funds from highly speculative fields or investments (y’know, like AI) in favor of more immediate benefits and gains, and everyone’s calculus is different, but to those for whom sovereignty is more important the capital will inevitably be found.

  • JumpCrisscross 21 hours ago

    > every single time a cause becomes important enough to fund, we always find the money somehow

    We as in America, the richest country on the planet? Yes. We as in various countries that went bankrupt, collapsed or got invaded over the centuries because they broke their piggy bank over a boondoggle? No.

    • bebna 12 hours ago

      USA also got a household that barely lives on its debts. Richest nation? Probably china already.

      • JumpCrisscross 10 hours ago

        > USA also got a household that barely lives on its debts

        So did every empire in history.

        > Richest nation? Probably china already

        If you’re not guessing, the answer is a clear no. (The best source on this might be the CCP. They don’t claim parity because Beijing isn’t delusional.)

        More fundamentally, the question was on budget constraints. Credit and cash buy the same infrastructure, healthcare and open-source software.

jowea 20 hours ago

I think the big thing will be FOSS solutions. That way the Europeans, Chinese, contrarian Americans, Russian, etc can use the same code and share capital costs without actually having to trust each other.

Swenrekcah a day ago

You raise a valid point, the resources we will have to put towards climate mitigation and dealing with extreme events will be a drain on productivity in other areas. However I think that will mostly be the case for “real” technology, I think capacity to produce software will be minimally affected even if there was no AI.