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Comment by hugs a day ago

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i think it really is as simple as boiling it down into a doc that looks like nip-1 and saying, "this is the absolute minimum amount you need to understand and implement to start sending messages on an AT-based network." -- not from a user perspective, but from an average developer perspective.

i know eventually i'd need to implement a ton more than the absolute bare minimum, but my gut-feeling "average developer brain" says nostr's absolute minimum feels smaller that AT's absolute minimum. i guess i'm looking for an AT doc for devs that shows the absolute minimum for creating a client that is equally approachable as NIP-1.

danabramov a day ago

Thanks, that’s helpful. I’ll see if I can write something in that spirit later.

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  • hugs a day ago

    thanks. also, fwiw, i'm also a very a happy AT user (@hugs.bsky.social) besides also being a happy nostr user.

    i appreciate bsky's focus on user ux and community building and look forward to seeing more sharing of ideas between nostr and AT.

    edit to add: to nerd-snipe my brain into wanting to make stuff with AT (or any future protocol) is to focus on a quick-start or tutorial showing the absolute minimal client to send one message.

    once i can do that... i'm ready to learn all the rest of the vocabulary and server-side stuff, but not until i can send one simple message from a barely functional minimal client.

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    • danabramov a day ago

      Would it be ok to use a library or is the requirement to keep it to raw primitives like curl?

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      • hugs a day ago

        i like seeing a bit of the raw, low-level protocol first. a few curl examples are perfect for understanding what’s really happening under the hood. once i get that, i'm happy to use a library to handle all the edge cases.

        but starting with a library tutorial makes me wonder how many stacks of turtles are being hidden. if i can see the turtles upfront, i'll appreciate what the library does for me -- and i'll have a better sense of how to debug when things break.

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      • evbogue 19 hours ago

        everything we need to authenticate the msg should exist in the msg. sig => timestamp, hash

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