searedsteak 4 days ago

It is a requirement [1] to land with 45 minutes of fuel remaining, if the pilots go under that, it is considered an incident. As soon as estimated landing fuel goes under the limit, the flight needs to declare an emergency (as was done in this case).

[1]: https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-14/chapter-I/subchapter-F... is the US rule, EASA has a similar rule.

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jacquesm 4 days ago

They got within a hair of crashing, there is nothing impressive about this. 30 minutes, ok, you still get written up but this is cutting it way too fine.

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  • maccard 4 days ago

    > this is cutting it way too fine.

    Either this is true, or this is why there’s a 45 minute reserve requirement. There were three failed landing attempts in two airports prior to the successful landing, and they spent almost as much time attempting to land as the scheduled flight took.

    Seems like this was exactly the scenario it was designed for?

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    • jacquesm 4 days ago

      No, this is what should never happen. I wrote fuel estimation software for cargo 747's and the one thing I would have never ever wanted to read is that an airliner of the company I worked for had landed with too little fuel.

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      • MagicMoonlight 4 days ago

        Right but this is an emergency… they didn’t plan to run out of fuel

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      • 7952 3 days ago

        Are there ever situations where running into the reserve would be a good trade off?

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        • jacquesm 3 days ago

          This one. The reserve is there in the same way that a crash barrier is there on the highway. You really don't ever want to use it, but when you do use it and it ends well you treat it just as seriously as though you would treat a crash.

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    • hshdhdhehd 4 days ago

      I would imagine 6 min fuel left was designed for something extreme. Maybe involving damage to aircraft limiting where it can land etc. Or extreme weather event such had high winds affecting all airports within 500 miles.

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