Comment by jazzyjackson

Comment by jazzyjackson 9 hours ago

Took 3 tech savvy family members to figure out why mom couldn’t sign back into an app she was paying for: every time she “signed in with Apple” she also hit “hide my email” (first option) and so registered with a new random email address every time she signed in

It was also illuminating how complex sharing app purchases can be. Some apps allow it, some apps it’s a different payment tier to enable it. It was unclear who had paid for what app and why they didn’t show up on some devices.

ZPrimed 7 hours ago

This is part of why I absolutely LOATHE the multiple "sign-in-with-Y" prompts on everything.

Federation's not a terrible idea for people who don't "get it," but many places are then starting to _hide_ the standard email-based login form... it's bonkers.

Google can go DIAF for their browser-based forced popover that so many sites have opted-in to (so they can sell more expensive ads, of course). [I use Vivaldi which is Chromium-based and AFAIK there's no way to shut off those prompts]

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eep_social 3 hours ago

Don’t bother switching to a better browser either, those prompts will be replaced with prompts to download chrome

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rendaw 6 hours ago

Hide my email replaces your email with an apple controlled intermediate address, right? Is there any reason apple couldn't reuse the same intermediate address for you?

I thought the main things were making it so they don't have your actual email to track/trace, that when you unsubscribed they couldn't continue to spam you, and maybe let apple track spammers, all of which would be fine with a persistent fake email...

I mean, facilitating multiple accounts, while it could be nice, seems way beyond the UX apple provides and isn't a typical paradigm for most software... this seems like an apple issue.

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wodenokoto 6 hours ago

It’s because the Sign in with Apple dialogue failed to recognize that it already has an account with said service.

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Barbing 5 hours ago

>making it so they don't have your actual email to track/trace
Indeed solved with persistent email (also solved by creating random new Gmail one time without paying for iCloud+)
>when you unsubscribed they couldn't continue to spam you
Once pwned (or in case of dishonest company selling data or changing outbound sending domains), it’d be one email to get spammed from all over the place
>maybe let apple track spammers
Suppose they could do this if folks used a single regular @iCloud email too, but it’s very important it’s a new email every time to prevent spam as mentioned before.
Big big point: we don’t want to be tracked by data brokers buying data then correlating emails across services. (Sorry for ineloquent reply, someone can do better but I’m pretty sure I’m barking up the right tree)

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- Someone 5 hours ago
  
  > >making it so they don't have your actual email to track/trace
  > Indeed solved with persistent email (also solved by creating random new Gmail one time without paying for iCloud+)
  If you make a “random new Gmail one time” and use that everywhere, that email address, for the purpose of tracking, is your actual email. People correlating your data across sites will not be able to infer your name from your email address, but that’s it.
  
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