Comment by hoppp
Comment by hoppp 18 hours ago
The moment they start mixing ads into responses Ill stop using them. Open models are good enough, its just more convenient to use chatgpt right now, but that can change.
Comment by hoppp 18 hours ago
The moment they start mixing ads into responses Ill stop using them. Open models are good enough, its just more convenient to use chatgpt right now, but that can change.
> People said the same thing about so many other online services since the 90s.
And this leads to something I genuinely don't understand - because I don't see ads. I use adblocker, and don't bother with media with too many ads because there's other stuff to do. It's just too easy to switch off a show and start up a steam game or something. It's not the 90s anymore, people have so many options for things.
Idk, maybe I am wrong, but I really think there is something very broken in the ad world as a remenant from the era where google/facebook were brand new and the signal to noise ratio for advertisers was insanely high and interest rates were low. Like a bunch of this activity is either bots or kids, and the latter isn't that easy to monetize.
Except it's hard to imagine a world where chatgpt is heads and shoulders over the other llms in capability. Google has no problem keeping up and let's not forget that China has state-sponsored programs for AI development.
And if/when they reach that point, the average consumer will see the ad as an irksome fly. That's it.
Except that I have switched to Gemini and not missed anything from OpenAI
How do you ignore ads when you ask for a recipe and it suggests using <insert brand-name here> ingredients, due to their superior flavors, textures, ability to mesh with the other ingredients, etc? Sure, you can decide to go with another brand, but over time, that stuff has the ability to stick in your brain. There have been many billions sunk into how to psychologically manipulate humans to get them to come buy your products, for instance McDs figured out decades ago through research that by giving away free toys in children's meals, the kids will whine and pester parents after seeing a commercial for a new toy from the latest superhero movie they just saw. Some parents will say no, but enough parents, after a long day/week of working will just give in.
Sure my example of asking for a recipe is contrived but imagine that for every query you make, that AI suggests using this framework for your web development, or basically any query you can think of will make subtle suggestions to use a specific product with compelling reasons why e.g. the competition has known bugs that will affect you personally!
The possibilities are endless.
> moment they start mixing ads into responses Ill stop using them
Do you currently pay for it?
I do pay for openAi Api but its a top up, my main usage is on free tier.
I tried to pay for Claude but they didn't accept my credit card for some reason.
I have local models working well, but they are a bit slow, my laptop is 5 years old, but eventually when I buy a new one Ill make the switch.
> Open models are good enough
Are they though? I have the best consumer hardware and can run most open models, and they are all unusable beyond basic text generation. I'm talking 90%+ hallucination rate.
People said the same thing about so many other online services since the 90s. The issue is that you're imagining ChatGPT as it exists right now with your current use case but just with ads inserted into their product. That's not really how these things go... instead OpenAI will wait until their product becomes so ingrained in everyday usage that you can't just decide to stop using them. It is possible, although not certain, that their product becomes ubiquitous and using LLMs someway somehow just becomes a normal way of doing your job, or using your computer, or performing menial and ordinary tasks. Using an LLM will be like using email, or using Google maps, or some other common tool we don't think much of.
That's when services start to insert ads into their product.