aspect0545 16 hours ago

This is different though. PP is saying that you require a phone number to sign up, and phone numbers are being used to match your account to your user name.

  • Citizen8396 14 hours ago

    "As a new default, your phone number will no longer be visible to everyone in Signal."

    https://support.signal.org/hc/en-us/articles/6712070553754-P...

    "Signal does not send your phone number to anyone unless you have enabled that others can see it and then you send them a message or make a call to them."

    https://support.signal.org/hc/en-us/articles/360007061452-Do...

    • heavyset_go 12 hours ago

      Neither of these are the issue, the issue is the required association of a phone number with a Signal account. You cannot register a Signal account without a phone number.

      It's something you'd want to avoid if your life, liberty or well-being are at risk if you're de-anonymized.

    • beeflet 13 hours ago

      This doesn't address the security problem

      • godelski 12 hours ago

          > the security problem
        
        You're confusing privacy with security. Phone numbers are a privacy problem and NOT a security problem.

        Think of it this way. There's a vault that's locked with secrets inside, but the door is transparent. This does not prevent privacy. But the vault provides security.

        Signal is not a transparent door, but is opaque. You can't see inside the vault. But the phone number reveals that you have access to the vault. This is very different than a security problem. Anyone connecting the two can see that you have a vault (security)[0], but they cannot see inside (privacy) or even when you access it (privacy).

        There is no security issue with phone numbers.

        [0] or can see that at some point in time you had a vault or someone that previously had that number had a vault

  • password4321 14 hours ago

    Agreed as far as governments tracking Signal sign-ups. For a long time though user names were not even supported between Signal users.