Comment by indymike

Comment by indymike a day ago

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> but rather that they're doing that while Chinese competitors are releasing models in vaguely similar ballpark under Apache license.

The LLM isn't 100% of the product... the open source is just part. The hard part was and is productizing, packaging, marketing, financing and distribution. A model by itself is just one part of the puzzle, free or otherwise. In other words, my uncle Bill and my mother can and do use ChatGPT. Fill in the blank open-source model? Maybe as a feature in another product.

Havoc a day ago

>my uncle Bill and my mother can and do use ChatGPT.

They have the name brand for sure. And that is worth a lot.

Notice how Deepseek went from a nobody to making mainstream news though. The only thing people like more than a trusted thing is being able to tell their friends about this amazing cheap good alternative they "discovered".

It's good to be #1 mind share wise but without network effect that still leave you vulnerable

  • senordevnyc 18 hours ago

    I know almost no one outside of tech who has used anything other than ChatGPT. And I know few people under 65 who aren’t using ChatGPT.

    • Sateeshm 14 hours ago

      This was my observation too for a while. But I'm seeing a lot of non-tech people using Gemini

rchaud 20 hours ago

> In other words, my uncle Bill and my mother can and do use ChatGPT

So what? DAUs don't mean anything if there isn't an ad product attached to it. Regular people aren't paying for ChatGPT, and even if they did, the price would need to be several multiples of what Netflix charges to break even.