Comment by cyrnel

Comment by cyrnel 21 hours ago

3 replies

+1 for Node-RED. If we've learned anything from elasticsearch/redis/bitnami/and dozens of others, it should be "don't build important things on code that isn't enshittification-resistant"

echelon 19 hours ago

What did elasticsearch/redis do so wrong?

AWS and Google stole their only revenue source.

Those guys did all the work and AWS and Google get to collect a cool hundred million each quarter for doing next to nothing. And the original authors can't compete with that.

Are we all gonna go sign up to "Enterprise Redis Cloud" to support them? I don't think so. They have nothing left. They got picked dry.

If they're preserved a "no managed offerings" freedom for themselves, they could collect a few hundred million from each hyperscaler each quarter and put that directly into product. And their engineers would be extra nicely compensated.

But that's not how this story plays out. Big tech just takes things and finds out how to monetize them in ways they don't have to give back.

And we've been trained (by big tech?) to yell at the little guys that try to carve out a space for themselves.

  • cyrnel 17 hours ago

    Both are billion dollar companies, we as individuals have nothing in common with them. Enshittification happens due to market conditions that apply to small and large companies alike. Redis and elasticsearch aren't underdogs fighting for the little guy, they are just a smaller scale version of the same shit.

    I'd rather have a software commons and have tech be owned by the workers and not soul-sucking corporations, no matter the size.

    • rixed 9 hours ago

      Sure, so would I. I would also prefer to live in a world without borders. Meanwhile, I'm just a peace activist.

      Life in this imperfect Earth makes you grumpy too early if you are not pragmatic.