Comment by basisword

Comment by basisword 6 hours ago

22 replies

The biggest surprise to me from this whole beta period is that a significant number of people used Launchpad. I have absolutely zero idea why when Spotlight has existed for more than 20 years. Why would you ever want to click and page through a giant iPhone screen on a desktop/laptop computer?

socalgal2 31 minutes ago

I don't use Launchpad but I can say, for me, Spotlight sucks! It decides at random times not to complete. I have it set to show apps only. I don't want it to find other things. But quite often I'll press Cmd-Space and type something and it won't find it. For example I just tried "pho" and it did not show Photoshop (which is on my system) but did show stuff completely unrelated to apps and I double checked, I only have apps selected in the Spotlight Search Results section in settings.

  • robmsmt 14 minutes ago

    This is a bug. The applications need to be reindexed. Happened to me on my work laptop and personal one

bombcar 6 hours ago

If you have multiple ways to do something on a computer/phone, some relatively large percentage of people will fumble around until they figure out a way to do it - and then do it that way forever.

So if someone accidentally triggered Launchpad and realized they could see their apps, they might use that forever (not knowing you can put your Applications folder in your Dock and use it as a start menu lol).

  • caycep 5 hours ago

    they've had a launch-pad-ey thing forever, I remember when our school lab had Mac IIs and Performas, and there was some simplified UI on top of finder which basically was all your apps in giant rectangular icons. I forget what it was called though.

viraptor 6 hours ago

Because I vaguely remember that one icon I use every other month, but can't recall the name. The icons are also ordered by installation time, so it's easy to jump to the most recent ones.

I use it rarely, but sometimes I'm happy it's there.

  • etempleton 5 hours ago

    Exactly this. Most of the time I use spotlight like everyone else.

rectang 2 hours ago

Launchpad is an easy gesture with the trackpad (pinch with thumb and three fingers), then type to filter and return to launch. I got used to it for stuff I don't keep in the dock (which is a lot, since I have the dock on the side and only a few things in it).

I suppose Spotlight is OK as a substitute: COMMAND-SPACE, then type to filter and return to launch. It's a little more clunky (as the search results take a few milliseconds to be assembled) but it'll work.

  • data-ottawa 23 minutes ago

    What feels breaking there is when you pinch to open launchpad you are not on home row, so typing to filter is inferior to swiping and clicking large targets.

    Cmd+space to open spotlight already worked and typing was the best option for that use case.

    I do like the new spotlight experience but this feels like losing a gesture, and it does not spark joy scrolling through the app list.

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pdntspa 41 minutes ago

What if you forgot the name of the app?

What if you rely on groupings to remember what you have installed for a given activity?

What if you want a quick visual overview of what is available to you?

What if you like or even prefer launchpad?

What if you install tons of tiny little apps that have a specific, if infrequently used, purpose?

What if you enjoy a little app gardening?

What if you don't like command-prompt style interactions?

What if you see value in having more than one way to do something?

What if you have 20+ years of muscle memory established?

What if the only thing you know prior is how to use your iphone?

And on another note, what is it with tech people lacking the ability to see how other types of people may want to use the hardware they paid for with their hard earned dollars? I am so sick of this awful perspective of, "everybody in the world must be exactly like me"

sgerenser 6 hours ago

I always forget that Launchpad even exists. I guess it doesn't now. I suppose it might be helpful if you just know "I need that app that looks like X" and don't actually recall the first two letters of the app's name.

gcanyon 4 hours ago

> click and page through a giant iPhone screen

1. Launchpad filters based on what you type. You don't have to page through things 2. As soon as you type anything, the first hit is selected and the return key launches it 3. Launchpad shows nothing but apps. As an app launcher, it's fantastic.

If Launchpad is gone I'm going to be sad.

  • Telemakhos 4 hours ago

    Launchpad is not actually gone: it's now a sub-unit of Spotlight.

    I still have an M1 Macbook Pro with touch strip, and my Launchpad touch strip button still works, bringing up Spotlight but with a predicate that makes it search only ./Applications and ~/Applications.

wyclif 4 hours ago

You wouldn't if you are a software engineer or some other power user. The sad fact is Apple knows that the majority of macOS users are accustomed to an iPhone-like workflow, which is swipe-centric, not keyboard-centric.

KPGv2 an hour ago

I use it when I can't remember the name of an app, or when I've first installed an app and it's not indexed yet.

throwaway290 an hour ago

the app doesn't appear in spotlight until it's indexed.

also spotlight hogs resources indexing stuff all the time, completely pointless when you just want a list of apps

gedy 6 hours ago

Shocking as it is, search based UIs are really despised by some people (me).

I greatly prefer visual/spatial browsing

  • brandall10 4 hours ago

    It's not the mode so much as the comparative efficiency. In a handful of keystrokes you can launch a commonly used app in under a second. Any type of visual browsing mode is going to take an order of magnitude more time/effort.

    For people who never work with things like terminals, sure. For fellow devs, it's an unusual choice unless they routinely cycle through irregularly used apps w/ hard to remember names.

    • pdntspa 36 minutes ago

      As a fellow dev, command line shit is a pain in the ass sometimes. I grew up as a Windows kid, visual browsing for stuff is sometimes the only way to fly. I absolutely loathe the amount of brute-force memorization that is required to operate a command-line efficiently. It took YEARS to memorize simple linux shit

      Everyone talks about how CLI is supposedly way more efficient. It is way more efficient to THEM. And now we are stuck in a hell where a good deal of functionality is only accessible if you want and are able to memorize the arcane nonsense that are command names, or the design-by-committee naming choices of moronic PMs who can't stop lapping up whatever bullshit marketing tells them to

    • TomaszZielinski 4 hours ago

      I click one icon, then another. It takes say 2s. Typing two letters and pressing enter would take 10x faster, so 0.2s. Given that I delegated work to AI agents, that’s 1.8s less of waiting :))