Comment by dolphinscorpion 7 hours ago
"I don't think this ends happily."
Still, 700 million users, and they can still add a lot of products within ChatGPT. Ads will also be slapped on answers.
If all fails, Sam will start wearing "Occupy Jupiter" t-shirts.
And friendster at one point had over 100m users. A gross margin (and more importantly, positive cash flow) business is more important than users. This data is not a good indicator of either.
They have literally hundreds of millions of users that are completely free. Not google search or facebook free, but free free, and only suffer a few billion in losses. Inference is cheap and their unit economics is fine. There is literally no business that would be making profit under those constraints. If they need to make profit, they can implement ads and that will be that.
In 2024 (when customer mix was more favorable) they lost 5B on 10 in forward looking ARR.
They aren't pulling an Amazon snd balancing cash flow with costs. They're just incinerating money for a low value userbase. Even at FB arpu the economics are still very poor.
>In 2024 (when customer mix was more favorable)
Okay, so still hundreds of millions of users
>They aren't pulling an Amazon snd balancing cash flow with costs.
Nobody said they were. I said having hundreds of millions of completely free users would suck the profitability of any business, and that the remedy would be simple, should the need for it arise.
>They're just incinerating money for a low value userbase.
If you don't see how implementing ads in a system designed for having natural conversations to users whose most common queries are for “Practical Guidance” and “Seeking Information” could be incredibly valuable then you have no foresight and I don't know what to tell you.
>Even at FB arpu the economics are still very poor.
No they aren't and I honestly have no idea what you're talking about. Inference is cheap and has been for some time.
Yeah but the problem then becomes you are in a knife fight with google. Welcome to margin compression on already thin margins and high capex. Its not a like they buy commodity hardware that is cheap, or have the depth of talent like Google to do ASICs + DC management.
Once OpenAI turns to ads, I think it's an indicator they are out of ideas.
No one ever paid for social media, or were expected to in the future.
> Ads will also be slapped on answers.
Ads won't be slapped onto answers, my guess is that they will be subtly and silently inserted into them so that you don't even notice. It won't always be what you see either as companies, political groups, and others who seek to influence you will pay to have specific words/phrases omitted from answers as well.
AI at this point is little more than a toy that outright lies occasionally yet we're already seeing AI hurting people's ability to think, be creative, use critical thinking skills, and research independently.