Comment by rvrb

Comment by rvrb 7 hours ago

32 replies

Fedora Silverblue is the closest feeling to the macOS experience I fell in love with that I’ve had on Linux in, well, ever. Very happy with it on my desktop and laptop. It’s not perfect but it is less imperfect than modern macOS has become.

Finding a laptop that works well is annoying, however.

kminehart 6 hours ago

> Finding a laptop that works well is annoying, however.

It doesn't exist at the moment. :\

I would pay 2x the price of a macbook for a linux laptop with the same hardware quality.

The battery life and power/efficiency of my m4 pro is insane. It's so good that it's really hard to justify using anything else right now.

  • bombcar 6 hours ago

    It's sad that the best Linux laptop right now arguably is a M4 Mac virtualizing Linux.

    • treesknees 5 hours ago

      Why not run it natively with Asahi Linux?

      • Everdred2dx 4 hours ago

        Well limiting to specifically OP's example (M4 Mac), Asahi doesn't support it yet. :(

      • crossroadsguy an hour ago

        Is Asahi installed side by side on a mac? You pick it at boot? And how “install and just use” it is?

    • risho 2 hours ago

      this is a psychotic question but have you actually tried doing that? like using a macbook as a vessel for running linux under parallels as a primary use?

  • viraptor 6 hours ago

    > The battery life and power/efficiency of my m4 pro is insane.

    They're coming. Look for AMD Strix Halo chips. They're in the comparably comfortable efficiency range.

    • srid 5 hours ago

      > AMD Strix Halo chips

      Do you happen to know any laptop that has a) equivalent screen quality (retina resolution), b) keyboard, c) trackpad but with full Linux support where all hardware pheripherals just work?

      • green7ea 8 minutes ago

        The HP zbook g1a ultra is as close as you can get with Strix Halo. There are two screen options and the OLED one is high resolution. It's Ubuntu certified as well and can run LLMs nicely. The keyboard, trackpad, etc are all to notch. It's somewhere in between a mac pro and max.

        I have one and love it but it's not close to my wife's mac on battery life.

      • STKFLT 4 hours ago

        The ThinkPad X1 series usually have great linux support and you can option them with 2.8k@120Hz OLED panels, which at 14" lands between the Air and the 14" Pro in terms of PPI. I have a couple generations old X1 Yoga and all of the hardware worked out of the box with Manjaro and Debian, including the touchscreen and active stylus.

        People usually buy them for the keyboards and trackpoint, but imo the touchpad is still pretty solid. It is a bit small on account of the trackpoint buttons taking up vertical real estate but its pretty responsive and multi-touch gestures work perfectly in my experience. I believe newer ones have larger trackpads than mine, though still not as large as a similarly sized mac.

      • dismalaf 8 minutes ago

        Well, the highest resolution MacBook has less than 4K resolution and there's plenty of 4K laptops out there...

        Most "business" centric laptops work great with Linux, as long as you use a well supported distro (Fedora, Ubuntu, Debian, openSuse). YMML if you use other distros...

      • scrlk 4 hours ago

        HP ZBook Ultra G1a? It has Strix Halo, 14" 2880x1800 (242 ppi) 120 Hz VRR OLED, and Ubuntu 24.04 options.

        Can't speak for the keyboard, but HP ZBooks/EliteBooks tend to be decent.

      • mistercheph 4 hours ago

        Your best option is framework IMO.

        The 2.8k panels are overall inferior to Apple's across a number of metrics, but they have a higher pixel density than the Air 13, (and has the S-tier aspect ratio of 3:2).

        The FW13 keyboard is objectively pretty decent but not perfect, and is much much better than any keyboard Apple has made in the last decade, could be personal preference but apple has been making some pretty bad keyboards for a while now.

        Trackpad on FW13 is OK, no one even comes close to Apple, but it's pretty decent, nothing upsetting if you're comparing it to any non-apple trackpads.

        Framework has excellent linux suppport, all hardware bells and whistles generally work out of the box on every Linux distro, but Fedora, Ubuntu, and Bazzite are officially supported by Framework they QA against all three and work with maintainers to resolve issues and you can be totally confident that everything will just work. (At least work as well as it would on Windows!)

        The other two downsides relative to a macbook are build quality and support. Although the FW13 is pretty solid in practice, I have dropped mine dozens of times and throw it in my bag and treat it overall rough and it has take on some dings and scratches but everything still works. But the frame is not very rigid, it flexes in lots of places, and it just does not feel as nice and solid as a macbook. And support can be hit-or-miss, like with any small manufacturer.

        • runjake an hour ago

          I think you’re talking about Apple’s butterfly keyboards which were only around for 3-4 years of the last decade you’re talking about. Apple’s keyboards have been great for 5+ years now.

    • benoau 6 hours ago

      The performance seems to rival Apple's Pro / Max chips but the battery life can only do that for light workloads or videos.

  • benoau 6 hours ago

    It's messed up TBH, the only laptops competitive on battery are Qualcomm which comes with a different set of sacrifices instead!

rcarmo 7 hours ago

I have a couple that work quite well with it, including a very nice 10” one - https://taoofmac.com/space/reviews/2025/05/15/2230

And I run a macOS-like GNOME theme that is pretty great.

  • p_ing 6 hours ago

    This looks great, but not for the US market!

    https://store.chuwi.com/products/corebook-x-i3-1220p?#descs

    • Rebelgecko 5 hours ago

      Based on past experience, I wouldn't buy chuwi hardware unless you're willing to treat it as disposable

      • p_ing 3 hours ago

        Good to know... at that price it almost is. I just want a half way decent Linux laptop that isn't FHD or 5 years old. Carbons are more than I want to pay for something 'for fun'.

        That's less expensive than the ASRock NUC BOX-225H I bought... and that was without RAM/NVMe.

DimmieMan 6 hours ago

Silverblue is great but regular Fedora is worth a look too if you don't want to deal with the teething issues of managing all your dev-tools with Silverblue's immutable setup, granted that was 2 years ago when i tried so thing's might be better now.

Infuriatingly; I have a macbook because a couple years ago I wanted a laptop that just worked while keeping my familiar tools but it really feels like Linux is trending up in polish and macOS on the down with an intersect possibly happening in a couple years.

  • wyclif 4 hours ago

    That Apple would allow this development to happen without any reversal is astounding. If allowed to continue it could seriously damage their MacBook market share.

    Then again, they may not care that much as long as they have the iPhone customer base.

  • leonewton253 an hour ago

    In bluefin (silverblue based) they have brew preinstalled, which helps alot. Plus now its more mac-like.

awesome_dude 7 hours ago

Are you using Fedora on the Mac (via Asahi)?

Or are you using Fedora on an Intel/AMD laptop?

  • rvrb 4 hours ago

    If it supported M4 I would be using it on my MacBook, but I am using a ThinkPad P14s gen 6 (AMD) right now. Some issues with suspend that I worked around with a kernel parameter but other than that, everything else worked out of the box