Comment by asadotzler

Comment by asadotzler 8 hours ago

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Apple no longer cares about disabled people.

Transparent UI, with controls sitting on top of arbitrary and changing content can NEVER be legible/discernible. Apple knows this, but fashion was more important than function and they decided, "who cares about disabled people, anyway."

Microsoft learned this lesson back in the Vista era but Apple's charging ahead with this terrible set of changes that will literally disable millions of users, people who will need to visit the accessibility settings to reduce the transparency.

It's a sad day when a company that has often lead in accessibility ships the least accessible OS in modern history. I guess it was a nice run having a Big Tech company to point to as a good example of doing various accessibility things well. Damn.

layer8 8 hours ago

It might be more accurate to say that they are giving non-disabled people an experience akin to that of disabled people. ;)

commandersaki 8 hours ago

I've been submitting endless feedback about how Liquid Arse breaks dark mode during the beta. I keep seeing dark text on dark backgrounds all over the place in both Tahoe and iOS 26, for example: https://imgur.com/a/R3DTcSd

I've pretty much given up with submitting feedback though.

  • brandon272 4 hours ago

    CarPlay has dark text on dark backgrounds in the latest version of iOS. And I’m talking about stock apps like Messages, not some obscure text buried somewhere deep in the operating system.

    Absolutely brutal.

nomel 7 hours ago

> Apple no longer cares about disabled people.

Did you enable the relevant accessibility options that are there for this purpose?

  • creddit 7 hours ago

    Why do that? If they did any investigation into the accessibility options whatsoever then they wouldn't be able to treat us to Kanye style analysis.

    • nomel 7 hours ago

      I'm sorry, but that's not a logical stance. If this were the method that anyone in the industry used (which absolutely nobody does) all interfaces would be high contrast 150pt font, no transparency, two color, because that's what my grandma needs.

      • creddit 7 hours ago

        My post is agreeing with you. It's sarcasm. Please try to parse it again.

        • nomel 7 hours ago

          Text emojis were invented by the grey beards out of necessity, not cuteness. ;)

otterley 6 hours ago

> literally disable millions of users, people who will need to visit the accessibility settings to reduce the transparency.

I'm confused. You're condemning them for not accommodating the disabled, yet admitting they provide an accommodation in the same sentence.

data-ottawa 5 hours ago

Changing toolbars to text-only is pretty bad. The button hotboxes are tiny

Generally I think the toolbar settings needed more testing, they can be wonky (e.g. in Automator for text+icon it causes the traffic lights to misalign, in Safari toggling the sidebar on and off is janky).

o11c 7 hours ago

Much the same on Linux with Wayland.

I haven't touched Windows for over a decade, does it still have a decent story for disabilities? They've certainly regressed in other areas ...

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basisword 6 hours ago

You can turn off the transparency in the accessibility settings. Sure products could be 100% accessible out of the box but unless you had some sort of limit on that it would likely make the experience worse for the majority of users. I can’t imagine Helvetica Neue Extra Light was particularly accessible as the system font a decade ago - but there were accessibility settings.

burnt-resistor 8 hours ago

This is what happens when designers are treated as royalty and are told that their new "clothes" are "awesome" all the time.

It's also a symptom of consumption addiction where there is demand/motivation for drastic, superficial changes that don't really offer any value except to those who are consumed by the need for constant change for change's sake.

Apple used to care more about disabled people because of how the Accessibility APIs worked and were required for most apps.