Comment by unleaded
Comment by unleaded 10 hours ago
real question because i don't know, what do people actually buy with crypto other than other money or illegal stuff? i presume paypal won't be happy with you buying/selling drugs with it
Comment by unleaded 10 hours ago
real question because i don't know, what do people actually buy with crypto other than other money or illegal stuff? i presume paypal won't be happy with you buying/selling drugs with it
To answer your question, I hardly buy anything with crypto because there's barely support... Hopefully this is a catalyst for change.
I feel like this is the wrong question to ask. Instead try "why would someone purchase with crypto over fiat?". I prefer to use crypto for international online purchases because the transaction and conversion fees from my native currency are way too high. With crypto it's a one off deposit fee and then gas is trivial these days.
It’s strange because I buy everything with Bitcoin already. Literally. Even my kids Robux!
I have a virtual crypto card and gave it to my daughter and she added it to the Google wallet on her android. She uses it anywhere to buy anything. My bank didn't want to open bank account to minor. Everything was set up in 10 minutes. I transfer to her some random coins and it just works.
I also use it myself as a backup abroad when my regular bank foreign account doesn't work for any reason.
I got the card in the middle of the night in 10 minutes.
I think all that is simply awesome.
Used everywhere to buy everything? Some serious evidence is required to support this claim. I bet she can't even buy candy at your neighbourhood convenience store.
Dude...
I can buy anything anywhere. If it supports regular cards, it supports crypto card.
My first test was to buy candy btw in the local corner shop in the middle of nowhere.
It is really funny how people on HN can be so stubborn.
I don't want custodial or joint accounts. Then my kids call me to ask about stuff on their accounts. I want them to have their own thing. I want total separation of my own accounts from anything else in the world, including my family.
These of accounts do have read access so you can send all your childrens' phone calls straight to voicemail. :)
Also, you can have complete separation if your accounts are at Bank A, and the dependents are at Bank B.
I'm not trying to convince you, but moreso keep others from making parenting harder than it already is.
I agree the AML laws of old are out of date for the current state of things. More and more workers in developing countries are doing remote work, and AML is unfortunately unfairly affecting this demographic (I used to be part of that demographic).
But enabling everyone to skirt around it completely is not a good outcome IMO.
They aren't old. They were passed this century—because, in democratic countries, they were politically radioactive until the 9/11 attacks allowed the Intelligence Community to get its wishlist passed into law.
Enabling everyone to skirt around it completely would be in effect a return to the state of affairs that prevailed throughout the entire 20th century, and that would probably be a good tradeoff.
A long time ago someone bought a pizza.
Most large company entries into the crypto space seem to fizzle out and disappear due to lack of use, and how annoying it is to deal with currencies which fluctuate in value between the time you've spent them and the time the transaction is approved (I understand there are lightning networks), and then there's the issue with maintaining wallets.
It really just adds nothing but extra complexity to the existing electronic payment methods. And takes away tons of things like regulators, regulations, consumer protections, strong case law.
Back when I carried it I would pay all my bills in it. Paid for most of my wedding tbh.
That said, I think Australia might be uniquely blessed by Livingroomofsatoshi. It basically bridges crypto to all our other payment streams.
Oh and grey market stuff all the time. Drugs that arent like, go to jail illegal but ship internationally direct from india. That sort of stuff.
Coinbase and Venmo offer debit cards that you can fund with crypto. Coinbase offers to auto-sell crypto assets you choose to fund it. That means you can hold money in crypto and sell it off when you want to buy something. Be cognizant of taxes, but if you're willing to hold your crypto for a year then LTCG kicks in and you're getting taxed at pretty reasonable rates.
Investment accounts on the other hand take a while for sales to settle before your funds are available as cash.
Stablecoin payments are currently a hugely growing business, mainly for B2B payments as I understand it. I think its really hard for people who have absorbed 10 years of anti-crypto groupthink from HN to digest the fact that crypto is here to stay and is finding legitimate use cases.
Stablecoin payments really are just better: - Instant settlement - Extremely cheap - Extremely reliable - Highly programmable - Built on open protocols - International
There are no traditional banking systems that offer all of these properties!
If anyone is tempted to reply with "okay but that could have been done with a database" I would really encourage that person to try to think hard about why that didn't happen.
Yeah, its amazing how much anti-crypto HN is. I decided to invest entire year in learning technology and I couldn't be happier on that decision. The entire ecosystem of mainstream coins is mind-blowing and too big to fail at this point.
I once had to go through a SWIFT certification and it was a nightmare… They make you jump through so many rings… They make you buy hardware from them (for their certification runs), their documentation is awful. Their test environment is awful (no logs, no clear error messages, etc). Sadest time of my life.
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there's lots of places to spend crypto if you look, and I don't feel like needing to associate my identity just to purchase digital goods. Crypto facilitates that. People forget it's even an option.
Probably not. Most Russian companies are not subject to sanctions even in the US, but many of their banks are. And most Western companies are not in the US and consequently aren't bound by US sanctions.
However, AFAIK eight of Russia's biggest banks are still cut off from SWIFT: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SWIFT_ban_against_Russian_ba...
Tax evasion mostly. Tokens are used to obscure movement of assets from both governments, but then you need to safely exit into real money in the recipient country, and preferably make them all clean and legal. Now you need to use some P2P exchanges, rely on some less reputable intermediaries, while PayPal will streamline the process.
There are legit uses that enterprise companies are using today, but they are few and far between in comparison to day trading/speculation/etc. For example, moving money from different currencies usually requires foreign exchange fees which can be hefty - whereas if you buy some stablecoin in a local currency and then sell that stablecoin in the currency you want to have in your bank account, you pay tiny transaction costs and thats it. This is a real problem for companies who have operations in tons of countries, and have to manage bank accounts and local entities in all of those countries. Imagine reducing your profit by 1-2% just because you want your profits in ireland instead of mexico. Stablecoins make that into <0.5%, which is many millions.
https://a16zcrypto.com/posts/article/stripe-bridge-acquisiti... has some examples