Comment by firesteelrain

Comment by firesteelrain 14 hours ago

23 replies

I have launched raspberry pi based PicoBalloons and had one fly for over a year at 40k ft. They are remarkably resilient.

I have used CubeSats in LEO to make amateur radio contacts. AMSAT is trying to get one to MEO/HEO. New cubesats are being released frequently. Not all RPi based and usually custom PCBs. You can buy desk based CubeSats for STEM

dylan604 13 hours ago

> had one fly for over a year at 40k ft

inquiring minds want to know. was this tethered? what kind of clearance did you need and what kind of equipment was necessary for safety purposes?

  • firesteelrain 13 hours ago

    It was connected to an Orbs 32” PicoBalloon

    https://balloons.online/orbs-32-clear/

    I used 36 awg wire and fishing line. The lower half of the dipole is also 36 awg wire.

    No flight clearances are required

    If any aircraft were to hit it, then it would be obliterated. This includes Cessna’s as well

    • rogerrogerr 13 hours ago

      As a bugsmasher pilot, I’d be most worried about 40k ft of fishing line wrapping itself around the spinny bits on the front. What’s the tensile strength on that stuff?

      Doubt it’d cause an immediate issue, but doesn’t sound very fun to remove.

      • firesteelrain 12 hours ago

        3-6 newtons or about 0.7-1.3 pounds-force

        Also it’s not 40k ft of wire. Altitude is 40k ft

        The wire is about 16 ft for one leg of the dipole. That is the taught part. The other just floats in mid air underneath the payload

        The community is very small and doubtful the sky will be filled with them

        The balloons follow the jetstream from where they are launched. I have seen them fly over the Artic Circle, for example

      • dylan604 11 hours ago

        if you're not familiar, 36AWG wire is thin. very thin. according to [0], it is 0.1270mm. seems to me that it might melt free from friction thin.

        [0] https://size-charts.com/topics/house-size-chart/wire-size-ch...

        • rogerrogerr 10 hours ago

          I’m familiar; I thought this was tethered to the ground. But it’s self contained within a few meters at 40k ft - not a problem.

          I do suspect if you encountered small gauge fishing line being used as a tether, you’d find at least some of it wrapped tightly around your spinner on the ground. Probably not much friction at play.

    • bonyt 10 hours ago

      I think you can file a NOTAM for a weather balloon even if you don't need clearance. Might depend on the size and payload, though, like if it's closer to a party balloon than a real weather balloon, and how high it's going.

      • firesteelrain 9 hours ago

        14 CFR Part 101, Subpart D – Unmanned Free Balloons excludes PicoBalloons due to their size and form

    • dylan604 11 hours ago

      No radar reflectors or blinking lights of any sort? The little flights up to 90k' with a parachute return required those for night flights. Maybe most people just ignore that??

      • firesteelrain 11 hours ago

        It’s not required at all. These are so small that they are not covered by like FAA type regulations

    • gtoubassi 7 hours ago

      If you have any details written up on your kit (in partic what solar you used) I'd appreciate a link. I'm looking to do similar

KboPAacDA3 12 hours ago

I concur with building picoballoons. It's much more economical. It's hard to recover from a malfunctioning rocket that carried your precious payload, but a burst Yokohama is just a learning lesson.

  • firesteelrain 12 hours ago

    I prefer the Clear Orbs 32” these days due to the cost of Yokohamas