Comment by Taek

Comment by Taek 4 hours ago

8 replies

That seems like a fair way for the free market to address things, no? If you need special carve outs, create a new type of Visa for those special cases.

The immigrants are all going to be paying taxes on their earnings. If you can boost H1B salaries by an average of $20k/yr by doing a price auction, that brings govt revenue and maybe even gives opportunities to balance the budget by creating more H1B slots.

thephyber 3 hours ago

What do you mean “fair”? What happens in the years/decades between when this hypothetical system is enacted and when the US can train up sufficient workers to substitute the labor force we currently have with H1-B?

Your proposal will mean 99% of all of the H1-B allocation will go to hedge fund quants and 1% maybe go to an AI researcher, but all of the materials science (eg. Cutting edge battery tech), semiconductor fabrication, neuroscience, pharmaceutical research etc will have to go without the skilled workers they currently get from visas. This is a recipe for the Boeingization of the US economy.

  • Taek 3 hours ago

    Or... those other parts of the economy increase salaries for skilled labor?

    If we can only bring 85,000 people into the country on one type of visa, doesn't it make sense to prioritize those that will bring the most value (tax revenue, in this case)?

    And if that's not enough people... raise the limit? And be confident that a raised limit is still keeping a high quality bar on entrants?

    • whatever1 2 hours ago

      Option 1: you give a visa to a quant with 2M/y today’s salary

      Option 2: you give a visa to a PhD to work for 150k/year in a small biopharma startup that thinks it has the solution to cancer.

      This salary stacked ranking optimizes for today’s worth of work. Not its potential.

  • throwawaymaths an hour ago

    exactly wrong. Americans are dissuaded from going into these highly skilled fields because anyone talented enough to do those things realizes they can make much more building SAASes or working on wall street.

    the Boeingization of the economy is mbas and bean counter middle management realizing that an H1-B is much cheaper than a citizen and opting to buy that labor, even if it's worse quality. as management, you put an ass into a seat, so job accomplished, here's your accolade.

  • AbrahamParangi 20 minutes ago

    This is just an argument against allowing the market to set wages, which you could make if you wanted to but it is not a strong one.

  • WillPostForFood 21 minutes ago

    "materials science (eg. Cutting edge battery tech), semiconductor fabrication, neuroscience, pharmaceutical research "

    This is a beautiful fantasy for H-1B, that is totally disconnected from reality. What is that 1% of the H-1Bs currently? It is mostly IT and software slop jobs.

    Here are the top 40 employers, it isn't going to hurt research in the US to cut them to zero.

    Amazon.Com Services

    Cognizant Technology Solutions

    Ernst & Young

    Tata Consultancy Services

    Google

    Microsoft

    Infosys

    Meta Platforms

    Intel

    Hcl America

    Amazon Web Services

    IBM

    Jpmorgan Chase

    Walmart

    Apple

    Accenture

    Capgemini

    Ltimindtree

    Deloitte Consulting

    Salesforce

    Qualcomm

    Tesla

    Amazon Development Center

    Wipro

    Fidelity Technology Group

    Tech Mahindra

    Compunnel Software Group

    Deloitte Touche

    Mphasis

    Nvidia

    Adobe

    Bytedance

    Goldman, Sachs

    Cisco

    Linkedin

    Pricewaterhousecoopers Advisory Services

    Paypal

    Ebay

    Servicenow

    Visa USA

    For non-slop jobs, give them a green card and fast track to citizenship. For an IT consultant, no thanks.

    source: https://www.myvisajobs.com/reports/h1b/

_heimdall 3 hours ago

Can we really consider it the free market when there are already so many regulations in place?

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