Comment by atleastoptimal

People remember things and consistently behaving like an asshole gets you treated like an asshole.

OpenAI had a lot of goodwill and the leadership set fire to it in exchange for money. That's how we got to this state of affairs.

> Why is there such an anti-OpenAI bias on a forum run by YCombinator, basically the pseudo-parent of OpenAI?

Isnt that a good thing? The comments here are not sponsored, nor endorsed by YC.

My takeaway is actually the opposite, major props to YC for allowing this free speech unfettered - I cant think of any other organization or country on the planet where such a free setup exists

I would call it skepticism, not cynicism. And there is a long list of reasons that big tech and big AI companies are met with skepticism when they trot out nice sounding ideas that require everyone to just trust in their sincerity despite prior evidence.

Why do you assume that a forum run by X needs to or should support X? And why is it unwise - from what metrics do you measure wisdom?

I don't want to be glib - but perhaps it is because our "context window lengths" extend back a bit further than yours?

Big tech (not just AI companies) have been viewed with some degree of suspicion ever since Google's mantra of "Don't be evil" became a meme over a decade ago.

Regardless of where you stand on the concept of copyright law, it is an indisputable fact that in order for these companies to get to where they are today - they deliberately HOOVERED up terabytes of copyrighted materials without the consent or even knowledge of the original authors.

because of the repeated rugpulling?

These guys are pursuing what they believe to be the biggest prize ever in the history of capitalism. Given that, viewing their decisions as a cynic, by default, seems like a rational place to start.

When you call yourself "Open"AI and then turn around and backstab the entire open community, its pretty hard to recover from that.

This. I’ve been on HN for a while. I am barely hanging on to this community. It is near constant negativity and the questioning of every potential motive.

Skepticism is healthy. Cynicism is exhausting.

Thank you for posting this.

People here are directly in the line of fire for their jobs. It’s not surprising.

I’ll bite, but not in the way you’re expecting. I’ll turn the question back on you and ask why you think they need defending?

Their messaging is just more drivel in a long line of corporate drivel, puffing themselves up to their investors, because that’s who their customers are first and foremost.

I’d do some self reflection and ask yourself why you need to carry water for them.