Comment by froh

Comment by froh 9 hours ago

> Germany, long a symbol of anti-nuclear politics, is beginning to shift.

err, no. it's not. industry lobby tries again and again, yes, and party officials parrot that lobbying, yes.

but no: there is no Endlager (permanent spent nuclear fuel waste site) in sight, the costs of dismantling used plants are outrageous and if it were not for nimbyism, we'd be essentially self sustaining on wind and solar within a decade.

matter of fact fossil and nuclear sponsored fud on wind and solar is the single biggest issue we face in Germany.

Atomkraft? nein, danke.

throwawayffffas 8 hours ago

State level NIMBYism is what's happening with nuclear. The state decides we won't have that in our back yard in the case of Germany.

Fear uncertainty and doubt is the only thing blocking nuclear power.

The irony is that the fud has been spread by "environmentalists" and has only managed to keep fossil fuels around for the last 20 years greatly exacerbating our climate change predicament.

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preisschild 9 hours ago

> but no: there is no Endlager (permanent nuclear waste site) in sight

The Problem in Germany is that by law the state has to build a repository, while the operators have to pay for it. The operators did pay (~24 bln EUR), but politically either NIMBY parties (such as CDU/CSU/SPD) block it, or the Greens (under Habeck) block progress so they can continue to shout "what about the waste???"

In Finland the operators can build their own repository and they did it cheap and relatively fast.

Also from an even more anti-nuclear country (austria): Kernenergie? Ja bitte!

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froh 8 hours ago

Finland is the world's first and only such facility so far.
the law to build it is pretty universal, the world has essentially agreed to not export nuclear waste.
associating the progressive innovative green party with blocking progress is an interesting turn, there was no progress in the topic for decades, and the reason is rather that nuclear waste is like toddler art: first no one wants to take it, trying to toss it is met with loud and hefty protest, and at the end nobody knows where to take it.
don't the alps have lovely granite areas for the Finnish model?

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locallost 7 hours ago

I propose we store it in your basement. It's really not a flame war, but people that consider themselves rational argue it's no big deal, so they should be prepared to store it in their immediate vicinity. I support renewables and don't have a problem with solar panels on my roof or even a windmill in my backyard.

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