Comment by kjellsbells

Comment by kjellsbells 18 hours ago

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For your use case, the Citroen Ami is comfortably sub 10k.

But perhaps you are making a larger point about "things I consider unnecessary adding $$ to the base cost of every vehicle." I would say, to that, that

- your governments and voters consider them important for societal reasons, e.g. airbags so you can walk away from a crash, or cameras to help crushing a child when reversing. Presumably you are ok with this..or not?

- the car manufacturers in the EU are politically powerful and absolutely fearful that if the EU allowed the full range of global vehicles into the European market, they would be crushed overnight. Why buy a VW when you can get any number of Chinese minis, or Indian econoboxes, or even a cheap kei car. I guarantee that China keeps Daimler-Benz and VW execs up at night and that they have the full support of their workers when they spend money to lobby against low cost foreign imports...

wqaatwt 13 hours ago

> the Citroen Ami is comfortably sub 10k.

It’s a quadricycle and not a real car, though.

Also I’d bet that VW/etc. executives are more fearful of Chinese equivalent’s of their mid/high-end models which cost the same as Europran manufacturer’s budget options.

Not tiny/ultra-budget/featureless vehicles which wouldn’t be that popular in Europe.

The issues with the Ami or anything similar or most cheap barebones models is that you can get a much nicer used car for the same price.

Modern cars are also much more reliable and last longer than they used to several decades back reducing the demand in the budget segment.

Aaargh20318 16 hours ago

> For your use case, the Citroen Ami is comfortably sub 10k.

That car is not suitable for my use-case. Any situation where I would use that car is one where I would use my e-bike instead. I basically use my car for those occasions where I just need to transport a bit more than I can take on my bike. It doesn’t have to be huge, but that Ami is just not enough.

  • skylurk 14 hours ago

    Tangential, but does your use case rule out taxi service or a car-share plan? Way more expensive per use, but you might still come out ahead.

  • prmoustache 7 hours ago

    I just use a trailer[1], I find it bonkers that one would use a car only for urban transportation. If I wasn't going regularly in remote area with my partners and my kids, I wouldn't even own a car.

    [1] I like cargo bikes but storage can be a challenge compared to a trailer you can fold and remove the wheels when not in use.