Comment by dingnuts

Comment by dingnuts 19 hours ago

6 replies

there are many problems with this attitude but even bicycles require industrial processes and trade to maintain. Mainly the tires but if anything breaks the metallurgy for the spokes wouldn't be available

bix6 18 hours ago

Sure there are also many problems with saying only tech can fix all our issues. Tech is the reason we have all these issues in the first place. People survived just fine in teepees. Some might even say they lived a better life before the tech (guns) and non-native disease enabled by tech (travel) wiped them out. Swap the bike for a horse then. All you need for that is wild food and people who care about animals.

  • lazide 16 hours ago

    Noble savage much?

    They had war, rapes, atrocities, tragedies, plagues, shittiness, famines, etc. too you know.

    At least from what we’ve been able to gather after they mostly got wiped out.

    It is no picnic living in a preindustrial society.

    • bix6 16 hours ago

      It’s no picnic right now either. Massive inequality while the world prepares to wipe us all away.

      I’m aware of the stats about xyz improving over time. But if we let the earth fall apart, as is the trend, it’s all for naught.

      • lazide 13 hours ago

        Do you think pre-industrial civilizations were super equal, or didn’t have ‘world trying to wipe us away’ issues?

        • bix6 13 hours ago

          Pre ag it was hard to store wealth or accumulate power so hunter gatherers may have been the most egalitarian setup in our history.

          Sure it’s always been a battle but they weren’t speedrunning GHG into the atmosphere.

JackMorgan 18 hours ago

This feels like whataboutism. "Sure, you're not doing international air travel and avoiding all the incredible waste of a modern car, but whatabout that small amount of resources needed for a bike?!"

It encourages helplessness and fatalism. Don't let perfect be the enemy of good.