cityofdelusion 8 hours ago

Disingenuous. Here is the correct chart to link if you want to assert emissions by country: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/annual-co2-emissions-per-...

  • griffzhowl 8 hours ago

    How does that make sense? The US reduced their emissions by shifting production to China, and China gladly lapped it up (in massive amounts).

    It would be good to have a graph showing where the ultimate products of these emissions ended up.

    • tfourb 7 hours ago

      Ask and you shall receive: https://ourworldindata.org/consumption-based-co2

      You will notice that the picture does not change radically if you include emissions from trade (which is what you were asking).

      Turns out while China expects a lot of stuff to the us, it doesn’t have that big of an impact on net emissions.

      • griffzhowl 7 hours ago

        Thanks, but what is it supposed to show? Looks like West outsourced their production to the East and this data just shows that?

        • anonymars 6 hours ago

          I took away from that link that per-capita emissions were 14 something for the US and 8 something for China

  • manoDev an hour ago

    This graph isn’t telling the history you think it does…

    China’s population is 4x times the US, and still, total emissions are a little over 2x — and that’s ignoring the outsized impact from exported goods.

ekianjo 9 hours ago

> If at least the US got in line with the rest of the world, we would be half-way there.

China and India would like a word with you

  • anonymars 6 hours ago

    Per-capita?

    But even so, in the future it'll be small consolation to think "nothing to be done, someone else was worse"