Comment by viraptor

Comment by viraptor 20 hours ago

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If Taiwan becomes practically inaccessible, is there any way another country can setup a competing fab (for the latest generation of chip sizes) without years of R&D? As far as I understand, the practical knowledge of how to do it doesn't exist right now. (Neither does the prerequisite tooling)

gizajob 20 hours ago

Given there’s fabs doing essentially the same thing elsewhere then yes. Getting down to 3nm and the technology and secrets that involves would take a while though.

TSMC can’t do it either without xUV lithography machines made by ASML in the Netherlands.

Furthermore there isn’t anything magical about about the current generation of chips that couldn’t be replicated at at a scale of 12 or 15 or 20 nanometers - it’s just that scaling down to that small allows for a greater density of transistors per wafer and thus increased power efficiency. An AI supercomputer could be built with chips with bigger transistors than 3nm it would just run hotter.

And investing in intel aside, one of Nvidias great competitive moats is CUDA and that’s software not hardware.

  • viraptor 19 hours ago

    I meant specifically for a given small size. Sure larger ones can be and are produced elsewhere. But how many years behind is everyone else if they can't get any help at all from the current companies.

pfannkuchen 19 hours ago

Aren’t the actual machines used in the fabs still made in Germany?