Comment by Antoniocl

Comment by Antoniocl 21 hours ago

8 replies

How this issue skews probably depends on where you live, but in the area I live, I have the opposite complaint: that bicyclists should re-learn that they are legally required (in my city) to ride on roads, rather than barrelling down sidewalks.

That said, this is coming from me as a pedestrian, so maybe someone who was primarily a driver would have a completely different take from both of us.

dgunay 17 hours ago

I don't personally care whether bikes (or scooters) ride on the road or the sidewalk, but my one ask is that:

If they ride on the sidewalk, they should behave like pedestrians. That is, do not blast into the crosswalk at 20mph (impossible for drivers to safely check for in most environments), do not randomly enter the road from the sidewalk, pass pedestrians at a respectful speed and distance, etc.

If they ride on the road, they should behave similarly to motorists. That is, actually obey stop signs (rolling stop, or even treating it like a yield is okay), and actually obey traffic lights.

I'll even tolerate transitioning from one to the other at appropriate traffic stops. Just please don't get upset if I almost run you over for abruptly taking right of way you never legally had.

  • nostrebored 15 hours ago

    Biking while respecting traffic rules dramatically increases mortality rates.

  • msgodel 16 hours ago

    Yeah bikes and pedestrians can mix as long as speeds don't. Mixed use paths (like the W&OD in Reston VA) really need something like a 5 mph speed limit.

  • Mawr 13 hours ago

    No problem, in exchange I just ask that you pass safely (1.5m distance). Since that's not going to happen until hell freezes over, we're gonna have to settle on the current situation.

    • josephcsible 13 hours ago

      That's often impossible except at super-off-peak times of day when there's no oncoming cars, except if the cyclist pulls over, but for some reason they never seem to do that.

pavel_lishin 20 hours ago

Where I live, there are definitely places where I end up cycling on the sidewalk, because it would be nigh-suicidal to actually take my bike on the road.

But I don't go barreling past pedestrians, and make sure I give them the right of way.

II2II 19 hours ago

I have noticed a huge uptick in agressive behaviour from motorists over the past couple of years. By huge uptick, I mean behaviour that I used to see once every couple of weeks I am new facing multiple times daily. Quite bluntly, the politicians in my area are enabling life endangering behaviour towards cyclists by blaming cyclists for traffic congestion that have nothing to do with cyclists (e.g. road construction projects for motorists, or waterworks or building construction that have nothing to do with cyclists).

While I am sticking to the roads, I don't blame other cyclists for seeking refuge on the sidewalks.

hamdingers 17 hours ago

Has your city made an effort to make it safe and attractive to ride on every street?

Or is that a de-facto ban on cycling.