Comment by barbazoo

Comment by barbazoo a day ago

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This might be obvious to others but to me this story really made it clear to me that this is probably much about fear. Fear of stepping out of line, drawing attention to yourself and as a result at best getting into trouble, or at worst deported.

The admin makes it clear, if you have opposing views and share them, you're not welcome here.

hearsathought a day ago

Fall semester is about to start. Don't think the timing is a coincidence. Israel really doesn't like people criticizing and protesting against them. Especially on college campuses.

  • barbazoo a day ago

    They don't care really about Israel I think, what leverage would they have to pressure the US admin to do anything? I think this is about being critical of the people in government in general. If everyone is at risk of being deported, who would go and protest anything? That would certainly make me think twice about it.

    • hearsathought a day ago

      They have been very open and vocal about their reason. And it's not just the republicans. The democrats also support it as well. Pretty much the only thing the republicans and democrats both agree on.

      • Tostino 16 hours ago

        Democratic politicians* the voters very much do not support Israel.

    • Aerbil313 3 hours ago

      Israel has enormous leverage over the US administration, through the AIPAC, a money laundering operation disguised as political lobbying, ensuring a steady flow of money from the US treasury to Israel govt. and right back to the Congress. Check the amount your Senator receives from AIPAC here: https://www.trackaipac.com/congress

      From AIPAC themselves: (https://www.aipacpac.org/)

      > Being pro-Israel is good policy and good politics.

      > %98 of AIPAC-backed candidates won their general elections.

      > $70M contributed through AIPAC to support pro-Israel candidates.

      > We helped defeat 24 candidates who would have undermined the US-Israel relationship.

      Democracy anybody?

      Now imagine Russia had a similar organization, what would the reaction be? Yet when it's Israel, it's somehow fine.

      From Wikipedia: (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIPAC)

      > AIPAC was founded in 1954 by Isaiah L. Kenen, a lobbyist for the Israeli government, partly to counter negative international reactions to Israel's Qibya massacre of Palestinian villagers that year.

    • SuperNinKenDo a day ago

      I don't understand how you can ask that question with a straight face given the last 50 odd years.

e40 17 hours ago

Absolutely. Every single one of those 55M people will think twice about every aspect of their life. It will be debilitating for many of them.

How long can support for this last?

mindslight a day ago

Speaking of fear, don't forget that "deport" doesn't mean that you will just be moved to a different country, but rather there is a good chance you will end up in a concentration camp.