Comment by OutOfHere

Comment by OutOfHere 2 days ago

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Although some of the author's concerns are valid, the author seems completely biased against LLMs, which makes their arguments trashworthy. The author is not seeking any sensible middle ground, only a luddite ground.

bccdee 2 days ago

The author is giving an account of his experience with LLMs. If those experiences were enough to thoroughly bias him against them, then that's hardly his fault. "Sensible middle ground" is what people appeal to when they are uncomfortable engaging with stark realities.

If someone told me that their Tesla's autopilot swerved them into a brick wall and they nearly died, I'm not going to say, "your newfound luddite bias is preventing you from seeking sensible middle ground. Surely there is no serious issue here." I'm going to say, "wow, that's fucked up. Maybe there's something deeply wrong with Tesla autopilot."

  • mdale 2 days ago

    The poorly named "Autopilot" is a good analogy. The LLMs can definitely help with the drudgery of stop and go traffic with little risk; but take your eye off the road for one second when your moving too fast and your dead.

    • OutOfHere 2 days ago

      It isn't, because no one is dying from not looking at the LLM's output in the next second. One is free to look at one's preferred speed.

  • orangecat 2 days ago

    I'm going to say, "wow, that's fucked up. Maybe there's something deeply wrong with Tesla autopilot."

    Sure, and that's very different from "the idea of self-driving cars is a giant scam that will never work".

    • bccdee 2 days ago

      If, four years on, the primary thing a tool has done for me is waste my time, I think it's time to start looking at it through the lens of a scam. Even if it does have good use cases, that is not the main thing it does, at least not in the current market.

  • mexicocitinluez 2 days ago

    > If someone told me that their Tesla's autopilot swerved them into a brick wall and they nearly died, I'm not going to say, "your newfound luddite bias is preventing you from seeking sensible middle ground. Surely there is no serious issue here." I'm going to say, "wow, that's fucked up. Maybe there's something deeply wrong with Tesla autopilot."

    What a horrible metaphor for a tool that can translate pdfs to text. lol. The anti-AI arguments are just as, if not more, absurd than the "AI can do everything" arguments.

    • bccdee 2 days ago

      Per the original post, it's a tool that will waste massive amounts of your time on slop. Don't pretend that there are no negative consequences to the proliferation of AI tools.

      • anthonylevine 2 days ago

        > Per the original post, it's a tool that will waste massive amounts of your time on slop.

        I'm gonna need you to know that just because some random dev who wrote a blog said something doesn't make it true. You know that, right?

        > Don't pretend that there are no negative consequences to the proliferation of AI tools.

        Wait, what? Who said otherwise?

        I love how you compare this tool to a Tesla's Autopilot mode, then get called out on it, and are like "Are you saying these tools are perfect" lol.

        • bccdee 2 days ago

          > Wait, what? Who said otherwise?

          > What a horrible metaphor for a tool that can translate pdfs to text. lol.

          You didn't say otherwise explicitly, but you're definitely downplaying the issues discussed in the blog post.

          > I'm gonna need you to know that just because some random dev who wrote a blog said something doesn't make it true.

          That's not really a satisfying response. If you disagree with the post, you'll have to mount a more substantial rebuttal than, "well what if he's wrong, huh? Have you considered that?"

    • OutOfHere 2 days ago

      Indeed. This post is just a congregation of AI-hating luddites.

  • OutOfHere 2 days ago

    The fact is that LLMs are extremely useful tools for code generation, but using them correctly for this purpose requires expertise. It's not for those with underdeveloped brains, and most definitely not for those who aren't even open to it due to a personal vendetta. Such people will rapidly find themselves without a job.