Comment by fruitworks

Comment by fruitworks a day ago

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I wouldn't be so sure it's an ideological stand.

4chan got hacked a while back because they were running a totally outdated software stack. It's been pretty much abandoned by its owner hiromoot.

If they aren't going to update the site for basic maintainance, they definitely aren't going to implement all this chat control/ age verification bullcrap.

I suppose a resistance to change is good when your competitors are burying their own graves.

lm28469 a day ago

You can ban 75% of the web if your concern is outdated tech stacks and/or data breaches

  • sokka_h2otribe a day ago

    I think they're saying that 4chan is not responding bc there is limited people at the helm, not that the UK gov is upset at their security.

  • Gud a day ago

    75%? Are you being generous because it's weekend?

    • sejje a day ago

      Agreed--if the concern is data breaches, we can just ban 100% of databases, even those offline.

      If it's outdated tech stacks, I'm sometimes in favor of those. Move fast and break things isn't always the best.

      • Tade0 a day ago

        That's not an outdated stack - just a stable one.

        An outdated stack is a not-up-to-date version of Wordpress I foolishly set up because it was the last one compatible with a certain plugin used by a client on their website that I was recreating from the Wayback Machine.

        The domain was put on a black list of dangerous sites (rightfully so, considering that the bot that hacked into it replaced the site with spam).

uyzstvqs a day ago

4chan got hacked because of some outdated dependency used for uploading PDF files, which was some obscure feature only available to some boards. The actual website does get maintained.

OgsyedIE a day ago

If the owner doesn't care about it and it's got such a strong network effect, what's stopping somebody from buying it and implementing the SomethingAwful monetization model, where it's free until you get banned and then $10 for every unbanning?

  • lupusreal a day ago

    Nobody besides Hiroshima Moot is dumb enough to buy 4chan.

  • Hamuko a day ago

    I think he enjoys the revenue it generates, not actually running the site.

oceansky a day ago

I laughed at hiromoot. Very clever nickname

  • sillysaurusx a day ago

    I know moot, but what’s the hiro part mean?

    • mostlysimilar a day ago

      A Japanese man named Nishimura Hiroyuki bought and now owns 4chan. It's a mashup of their names.

    • Hamuko a day ago

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiroyuki_Nishimura

      >Users on 4chan refer to him commonly as 'hiro' but also by the ethnic slur "gook moot", or the nickname "Jackie 4chan", "Hiroshima Nagasaki," or simply "hiroshimoot".

      • soraminazuki a day ago

        That's kind of misleading because it lists hiroshimoot alongside blatantly racist nicknames. But hiroshimoot simply appears to be the names of two people mixed together.

bananalychee a day ago

If that were the case I'd expect them to block UK IPs (or ignore the threats entirely) rather than fighting it legally.

caesil a day ago

I wonder what they're going to do when the states mandating age verification for pornographic content start coming for them.

Very similar to these dystopian foreign laws. But because they're US states 4chan will not be able to use the "we only recognize US law" defense.

  • Hikikomori a day ago

    The latest Steam and visa/Mastercard debacle has the project2025 head behind it. They want to make pork illegal in the US as well.

zahlman a day ago

> I wouldn't be so sure it's an ideological stand.... they definitely aren't going to implement all this chat control/ age verification bullcrap.

I read this as a plain contradiction.

> they were running a totally outdated software stack.

And this as a convenient pretense.