Comment by camillomiller

Comment by camillomiller 3 days ago

It seems to me that probabilistic approaches are more akin to magical AI thinking right now, so defending that as the new paradigm sounds quite egregious and reeks of (maybe involuntary?) inevitabilism.

Even if the assumption is correct, forcing a probabilistic system on a strongly deterministic society won't end well. Maybe for society, but mostly for the companies drumming up their probabilistic systems and their investors.

Also, anyone who wants to make money probabilistically is better off going to the casino. Baccarat is a good one. European Roulette also has a better house margin than chatGPT's error margin.

ath3nd 3 days ago

> It seems to me that probabilistic approaches are more akin to magical AI thinking right now, so defending that as the new paradigm sounds quite egregious and reeks of (maybe involuntary?) inevitabilism

Thank you for saying that!

I read it as: "our product is fickle and unreliable and you have to get used to it and love it because we tell you that is the future".

But it's not the future, it's just one of many possible futures, and not one I and a large part of society wants to be a part of. These "leaders" are talking and talking but they are just salemen, trying to frame what they are seling you as good or inevitable. It's not.

Look for example, at the Ex CEO of Github and his clownish statements:

- 2nd of August: Developers, either embrace AI or leave the industry https://www.businessinsider.com/github-ceo-developers-embrac...

- 11th of August: Resigns. https://www.techradar.com/pro/github-ceo-resigns-is-this-the...

Tell me this is not pitiful, tell me this is the person I gotta believe in and who knows what's the future of tech?

Tell me I gotta believe Sama when he tells me for the 10th time that AGI is nearly there when his latest features were "study mode", "announcing OpenAI office suite" and ChatGPT5 (aka ChatGPT4.01).

Or Musk and his full self driving cars which he promised since 2019? The guy who bought Twitter, tanked its value in half so he can win the election for Trump and then got himself kicked out of the government? The guy making Nazi salutes?

Are those the guys telling what's the future and why are we even listening to them?

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camillomiller 3 days ago

Unfortunately the answer is “because they are rich beyond comprehension and no regulation was put in place at the right time to avoid that“.

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- ath3nd 3 days ago
  
  While money certainly gives them a bigger ability to influence the future than an ordinary bloke, it still doesn't mean they are able to just wish it true.
  Elon failed his boring tunnel
  Elon is failing his rocket ventures so much that he had to try to gut NASA so he remains competitive
  Elon didn't achieve full self driving cars and is now sued, hopefully to oblivion, for the fatal car crashes his half baked tech created.
  Zuck didnt achieve the Metaverse.
  Zuck didn't achieve widespread VR adoption.
  It's extremely funny to see these pitiful billionaires speak with confidence of a future they want and pour billions in, but then fail to achieve. Their failures are multiplied by how much money, resources, time and people they threw at the problem and still failed. Watching these men-chileren unravel in front of our very eyes is infinite comedy, we are talking going Nazi, getting drug addicted, going Bro?, MMA training, one can't make this stuff up, their actions read like made up satire in the Onion.
  They are society's laughing stock, because despite all their vast resources they seemingly don't want to do anything good for society and instead prefer to race to see who can fly their pitiful rockets to Mars first or sell more crap to people who don't need it, or yet influence another election and elect the next Mussolini wannabe. Those guys are the ultimate clowns.
  
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