gtsop 2 days ago

No i don't but by your post it seems like you do. Show us, that is all i request.

  • PUSH_AX 2 days ago

    I have insight into enough code bases to know its a non zero number. Your logic is bizarre, if you’ve never seen a kangaroo would you just believe they don’t exist?

    • gtsop 2 days ago

      Show us the numbers, stop wasting our time. NUMBERS.

      Also, why would I ever believe kangaroos exist if I haven't seen any evidence of them? this is a fallacy. You are portraying the healthy skepticism as stupid because you already know kangaroos exist.

      • PUSH_AX 2 days ago

        What numbers? It doesn’t matter if it’s one or a million, it’s had a positive impact on the velocity of a non zero number of projects. You wrote:

        > Two years in and we are waiting to see all you people (who are free of our tunnel vision) fly high with your velocity. I don't see anyone, am I doing something wrong?

        Yes is the answer. I could probably put it in front of your face and you’d reject it. You do you. All the best.

ceejayoz 2 days ago

That’s hardly necessary.

Have we seen a noticeably increased amount of newly launched useful apps?

  • PUSH_AX 2 days ago

    Why is useful a metric? This is about software delivery, what one person deems useful is subjective

    • nobleach 2 days ago

      Perhaps I'm misreading the person to whom you're replying, but usefullness, while subjective, isn't typically based on one person's opinion. If enough people agree on the usefullness of something, we as a collective call it "useful".

      Perhaps we take the example of a blender. There's enough need to blend/puree/chop food-like-items, that a large group of people agree on the usefullness of a blender. A salad-shooter, while a novel idea, might not be seen as "useful".

      Creating software that most folks wouldn't find useful still might be considered "neat" or "cool". But it may not be adding anything to the industry. The fact that someone shipped something quickly doesn't make it any better.

      • PUSH_AX 2 days ago

        Ultimately, or at least in this discussion, we should decouple the software’s end use from the question of whether it satisfies the creator’s requirements and vision in a safe and robust way. How you get there and what happens after are two different problems.

    • darkwater 2 days ago

      > Why is useful a metric?

      "and you realise the code just enables the business it all of a sudden becomes a velocity God send."

      If a business is not useful, well, it will fail. So, so much autogenerated code for nothing.

      • PUSH_AX 2 days ago

        I see, I guess every business I haven’t used personally, because it wasn’t useful to me, has failed…

        Usefulness isn’t a good metric for this.

      • imiric 2 days ago

        It's not for nothing. When a profitable product can be created in a fraction of the time and effort previously required, the tool to create it will attract scammers and grifters like bees to honey. It doesn't matter if the "business" around it fails, if a new one can be created quickly and cheaply.

        This is the same idea behind brands with random letters selling garbage physical products, only applied to software.