Comment by aja12

Comment by aja12 3 days ago

Baseband SoC running their own OS independent from Android/iOS and staying asleep (while still listening for incoming signals) is very much no longer in conspiracy theory territory and more an established fact now. I don't have the source at hand but it's in one of the standards. And the purpose is very clear: LEA like Interpol must be able to locate any IMEI at any point if in tower range, regardless of the power state of the "main" OS

dahart 2 minutes ago

I don’t doubt SoCs have their own micro-OS, but I too would love to see a reliable source showing phones connect to towers when powered off. Wouldn’t this, at a minimum, violate FAA/EASA rules? Google tells me the cellular radio in an iPhone has no power when in airplane mode or when off.

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escaine 2 hours ago

Surely this is really easy to prove by putting a phone into an anechoic chamber and using a spectrum analyser to show that it's still TXing?

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joha4270 25 minutes ago

The phone isn't going to connect to a tower it cannot see.
It can't just scream out into the void and hope a tower picks it up, it needs a few pieces of timing information & cell configuration beforehand.

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pdesi 3 days ago

Even in airplane mode?

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h4ck_th3_pl4n3t 3 days ago

I dare you to do the following:
Charge phone to full 100%. Turn it off.
Put it into a faraday cage, e.g. a steel box, for 7 days.
Take it out again and wonder why the battery is empty.
(The faraday cage has the effect of making the modem have to switch bands constantly, which costs more electricity than sleep mode in LTE)

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- kelnos 14 minutes ago
  
  It would still be simpler for you to link to a credible source. A bit strange that you seem uninterested in doing so, and prefer to tell people to do their own experiments, in this case one that requires an extra phone and a week of time.
  
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