Comment by RugnirViking

Comment by RugnirViking 3 days ago

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> A high-trust society cannot be built by force.

Imo we're kinda in the worse quadrant of whats possible.

You can either have high visibility/force of prevention efforts or low. And you can have high actual rates of crime or low.

Imo we currently have low actual rates of crime (you see people saying oh its rampant in California or whatever but im not there and can't make an accurate assessment of it over the internet) and highly visible (damn near pervasive) efforts at preventing crime in almost every corner of our lives. "please don't abuse our staff" "cctv in operation", facial recognition, constant assumptions that you are a threat. If I didn't know better its almost like they "want" people to be criminals -- it seems like according to some other threads there are at least some people whose jobs it would make easier

UncleMeat 3 days ago

It is amazing to me that we have have failed so completely to report on the miraculous drop in crime rates over the past 30 years. People consistently report that crime is up, even when presented with contradictory evidence.

A major part of the problem, in my estimation, is that a lot of people don't actually perceive crime as crime but instead perceive divergence from their expected social hierarchies as crime. This is how you get people saying that crime in DC is high because they saw a person that looked homeless sitting on the metro. Although sitting on the metro is legal, a poor person doesn't "belong" there so this is seen as evidence of crime.

  • JKCalhoun 3 days ago

    That's a good point. Perhaps people "feel" unsafe, not that, statistically, they in fact are.

    • RugnirViking 3 days ago

      and thats kinda what my point is. Even outside of the news cycle, there is so much anti thievery signs etc where their main function, in my estimation, is causing people to feel that crime is all around them, regardless of their effects on actual crime.