seanmcdirmid 3 days ago

64GB is what you need to run some decent quantized mid-sized LLMs locally…with unified memory on Apple silicon. Should be standard, that would open up a lot if new applications. Incidentally, even high DPI monitors aren’t standard yet for non-mobile devices. Sad how slowly things move.

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ZYbCRq22HbJ2y7 3 days ago

Are there aggregations of some accessible telemetry from a widely used application that reveal what is most common today?

  • bcraven 3 days ago

    https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Softw...

    Gamers only, but that's not a bad selection imho

    • wtallis 3 days ago

      The Steam Hardware Survey is an incredibly valuable resource, what with it being freely-available, constantly updated, and sourced from a population that makes its sampling biases generally easy to identify and understand. It and the Backblaze hard drive data are almost unique in how they provide real, large-scale data about computer hardware.

      • Panzer04 2 days ago

        It's interesting how you can practically tell how many people have a specific processor nowadays (12 core = 5900,7900,9900x, 14 core = i5 14600k, 245, 20 core = i7 etc)

        Pretty cool

      • wiredpancake 3 days ago

        It has his flaws though and is somewhat archaic. I emailed Gabe about this a while back but got no response.

      • Aleklart 3 days ago

        No it is not, it just shows what Chinese bot farm emulators are configured at the moment.

    • ZYbCRq22HbJ2y7 3 days ago

      Thanks, 35.15% on 32GB as well, getting there

      • Brybry 3 days ago

        I believe most consumer CPUs only have 2 memory channels w/ 1 memory controller so unless they're using 64GB UDIMMs (which I believe do exist as of this year) then gamers seem limited to 64GB total ram (2x32GB) unless they want to drop their ram frequency.

        For example a 9950x3d officially supports 2 sticks at DDR5-5600 but 4 sticks at only DDR5-3600. [1]

        I had a friend run into this issue on AM5 when he was trying to use 4x32GB DDR5 on his gaming PC.

        [1] https://www.amd.com/en/products/processors/desktops/ryzen/90...

cute_boi 3 days ago

I asked my company to give me 32 GB RAM, then old boomer said why I need so much of RAM. They were asking whether I am building a rocket....

  • jlokier 3 days ago

    I've had that happen twice!

    Recently I asked for my software developer colleage to be bought a 24 GB Macbook Air instead of 16 GB, and boss came back with "not everyone needs a super-big machine like yours Jamie!".

    They seriously spent contractor time investigating whether 16 GB was "enough" to get by for our app development, for a price difference on one laptop (second hand) that was negligible compared with cost of my colleage's time.

    When I was using 16 GB I regularly had to watch the spinning beachball waiting for tasks due to memory pressure. Between browsers and VMs, it was nowhere near enough for how I worked. So I knew why I was asking, and I knew the price difference was so small for the company, that it was a no-brainer. I gave justifications but it was seen as over-indulgent.

    • resonious 3 days ago

      I mean I also feel like 16GB should be more than enough for what I do (web dev). But bottom line is it isn't. I guess the people making these decisions should try building and running their app locally themselves...

  • dlcarrier 2 days ago

    A rocket can run on 32 KB of RAM. It's web browsers that take all the RAM. (At least for normal users, that don't run neural networks locally.)

GloriousKoji 2 days ago

16GB has been the new minimum for under a year. Give it some more time /s