Comment by arijun

Comment by arijun 5 days ago

12 replies

Those are some very minor complaints, all of which would not affect my buying choice, given the larger differences. That said, I’ll tell you that I don’t notice (1), for (2) I would never sit there organizing my photos, I have other (mostly less productive) things to do with my time, and (3) seems like something I specifically _dont_ want.

packetlost 5 days ago

No, two of those are some pretty fundamental complaints about how GP wants to use their device. Just because you don't have those complaints doesn't make them any less fundamental.

Ultimately the disagreement is primarily on the fact that Apple goes very far out of their way to hide the concept of a file and filesystem from the user.

The wobbling one is minor, in all fairness.

  • gpm 5 days ago

    The wobbling one would be pretty major if you ran into it all the time in your regular workflow...

    • packetlost 5 days ago

      It's easily solvable with a case. I agree that it's silly that Apple does it this way, but I struggle to see how it rises to the level of being a fundamental flaw like file management is.

      • Ruthalas 5 days ago

        The wobble actually factors onto my device choice as well. It's just annoying to live with for the life of the phone if you can't find a case that widens it, which many don't.

        • dpkirchner 5 days ago

          Casetify makes decent cases that make the super annoying bump less annoying. My iPhone 13 Pro's bump is now more like 1mm, effectively.

tshaddox 5 days ago

Absolutely. The camera bump is a complete non-issue, and probably easily solvable with a case if it's really the thing pushing you away from an entire smartphone platform.

I shudder at notion of feeling compelled to group every photo I take into exactly one folder. A directory tree makes very little sense for organizing everyday photos. If I for some reason had a natural temptation to do this, I'd be grateful to Apple for discouraging it in their Photos app.

  • makeitdouble 5 days ago

    > solvable with a case

    The iphone 16's camera bump is 3.5mm. Short of making your own case that makes the bump a Pixel like bar, that wont be solved by just sticking a case.

    On photos, it is indeed a very personal topic to many. In particular someone taking dozens of random pictures everyday won't have the same use case as someone being a lot more deliberate for each picture for instance. A one size fjts all approach isn't helpful IMHO.

    • ars 4 days ago

      > The iphone 16's camera bump is 3.5mm.

      Why even have a bump? Make the phone thicker by exactly that amount and increase the battery. Then the phone is flat and has a better battery life. Are there uses who actually prefer a bump?

      • makeitdouble 4 days ago

        > Are there users who actually prefer a bump?

        Speaking for myself, I'm fine with it on Pixel phones.

        I'd be happy with more battery and no bump if:

        - phone makers gave up on the glass backs and metal, and made the body plastic (no more "premium" feel for the sake of it, I don't want heavy and fragile materials)

        - the physical durability was balanced with the additional weight: dropping the phone the wrong angle shouldn't mean a guaranteed cracked screen.

        The current Pixel9a would be near perfect balance for me, if they gave it better cameras and internals instead of making it a budget phone.

      • SirMaster 4 days ago

        I don't want a phone that would be as heavy as you suggest. I have 0 issue with current battery life.

        Like others a case has always made the bump a complete non-issue for me. My iPhone has never wobbles when laid back down on a table.

      • infthi 4 days ago

        Motorola did some A/B testing in 2011 with Droid RAZR and Droid RAZR MAXX. They had identical hardware, but first one was the thin one with a camera bump, second one was uniformly thick (thus no bump) and put an extra battery there (which doubled the capacity).

        Given that 3 years later they have stopped producing phones with bumps, I guess people really prefer battery to bumps ¯\_(ツ)_/¯