Comment by perihelions 6 days ago
As a remark, not a criticism, such a deliberate promotion is probably illegal in the UK market,
> "But Ofcom says platforms required to introduce "highly effective" methods to check user age must not host, share or permit content that encourages use of VPNs to get around age checks. The government has also told the BBC it would be illegal for platforms to do so."
That only applies to those platforms that are required to do "highly effective age checks".
i.e. the top category of "harmful" site cannot point people to VPNs as a way to avoid age verification. Everyone else can tell people about VPNs as a way to avoid age verification. The media have been doing so for a start.
> must not host, share or permit content that encourages use of VPNs to get around age checks. The government has also told the BBC it would be illegal for platforms to do so
Holy. Crap. I knew the UK was going off the deep end with these laws, but this actually looks like China-level government reach.
You need to introduce an invasive great firewall before you can effectively ban VPNs, since there's so many different ways to hide traffic.
Unlike banning porn, banning VPNs has no political value because the technically inept voters who support these age verification policies don't know what a VPN is.
> You need to introduce an invasive great firewall before you can effectively ban VPNs
If you're China, yes. If you're a large and powerful western country, not so much.
The way to do it would be through the concept of "data laundering." Just like the US does with money laundering, the government would publish a list of all organizations and individuals engaged in the practice. All companies operating in that country would need to (globally) sever all ties with everybody who is on the list. Everybody else could choose between doing the same or ending up on the list themselves.
Only powerful countries could do this effectively, less powerful ones would just isolate themselves, just like China did. The US could definitely do it. The EU, UK, Japan and maybe India probably could, but it would be dicy. Everybody else would fail spectacularly.
Age verification for VPNs would be awesome. I would rather hand ID over to a VPN provider than individual sites I visit.
Can VPN/DNS providers independently market their services, if content providers cannot advertise VPN providers?
> "content that encourages use of VPNs to get around age checks"
I think "...to get around age checks" is controlling. It isn't illegal to promote VPN's in that country; it's illegal to promote their usefulness in circumventing other laws.
* https://legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2023/50/contents
Which section of the Online Safety Act 2023 is that in, please?
"Under no circumstances should you use Mullvad VPN (https://mullvad.net/en), available for 5Eur/mo - also payable in Bitcoin, to avoid our age verification checks!"
> Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Edit out swipes.
NextDNS isn't a content platform required to have age checks, so no, that prohibition doesn't apply here and promoting the bypass feature isn't 'probably illegal'.