Comment by appreciatorBus 17 hours ago
A retort being familiar does not mean it isn't true or real.
Millions upon millions of ppl at every income level have experienced working in and around unions and not all of them came away with a positive experience.
It didn’t come by itself, it came in the wake of a comment that outlined a process whereby unions have a negative effect on new applicants in the job market.
The disagreement then was “I’ve heard that argument before.” - “ok that doesn’t make it wrong” <— that last sentence is what you’re replying to.
Do these same criticisms also apply to corporations? I've worked for some absolutely shitty corps that have abused and taken advantage of their labor. Should we abolish corporations?
These criticisms of unions are always pulled out but then never equally applied to corporations.
Corporations are providing people with jobs and clients with value (or they go out of business).
Unions, especially failing ones, don't inherently provide any net benefit to society. They may as well be engaged in little more than self-preservation and zero-sum games.
Therefore, I believe unions deserve a different type of scrutiny than corporations.
You can say the same thing about democratic governments, or capitalism, etc. etc.
By itself that's not a meaningful observation.