Comment by leptons

Comment by leptons a day ago

Only because Microsoft got slapped on the wrist way back when.

Google should get slapped too, and they might be headed that way...

https://www.npr.org/2025/04/20/nx-s1-5367750/google-breakup-...

Safari is also pretty user-hostile, which is why Apple is getting sued by the DOJ for purposely hobbling Safari while forbidding any other browser engine on IOS. They did this so that developers are forced to write native apps, which allows Apple to skim 30% off any purchase made through an app.

userbinator a day ago

There's a huge difference between antitrust concerns, and mass surveillance and anti-user hostility. MS' business back then was to sell software, not monetise users.

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leptons a day ago

You don't think Microsoft is doing mass surveillance? They own Outlook and Teams, and Windows 11 is quickly turning into a platform for training AI on your data. I doubt Edge is going to be much different. It's the reason I'm switching to Linux.

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- userbinator a day ago
  
  They started going down that route many years ago now (Windows 10 "telemetry" being a critical inflection point), but the Microsoft of the 80s and 90s and even early 2000s was not about mass surveillance but selling software.
  
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  aspenmayer a day ago
  
  Perhaps you’re right, but by the time Microsoft acquired Hotmail in 1997, MSN was already two years old and had its own dialup service. Microsoft knew what they were doing.
  
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JimDabell a day ago

> Apple is getting sued by the DOJ for purposely hobbling Safari

I don’t believe the lawsuit claims this, does it?

> which allows Apple to skim 30% off any purchase made through an app.

This is untrue.

- Most developers pay 15% for in-app purchases. Only the tiny proportion of developers earning more than a million dollars a year pay 30% and even then, it’s 15% for subscriptions after the first year.

- This is not any purchase made through an app. This only applies to digital goods and services.

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