Comment by cbeley

Comment by cbeley 2 days ago

15 replies

Because I want to actually support content creators. I also want it to be more normalized to pay for things vs having ad supported content.

card_zero 2 days ago

Do you think giving money to the world's largest ad agency will encourage them to change their business model?

  • cbeley 2 days ago

    Their business model is already in line with my values. I give them money and in exchange I get an ad-free experience. They don't need to change.

    • card_zero 2 days ago

      If you care about whether content is ad supported or not, then Google are behind most of the world's ad supported content, and need to change, irrespective of your own transaction, unless you think transactions like that will change them. That's why I asked. It would be nice if it worked.

    • lucb1e 2 days ago

      I'm not aware that you can pay for Google Search. That they have a paid tier for Youtube is probably to cater to another group of people rather than to "align with your values" and encourage people to actually pay for things online

  • j45 2 days ago

    It’s an opt out fee from Ads.

lucb1e 2 days ago

I don't think you're normalizing ad-supported content when running an ad blocker

As for paying for the content you consume, most of the costs aren't on Google's side. I can understand paying for Youtube as a shortcut to hopefully giving some pennies to each person you watch, though, at least for those with no moral objection to making Google's/Youtube's monopoly in online video stronger

matheusmoreira 2 days ago

Then subscribe to their Patreon instead of paying YouTube.

  • lucb1e 2 days ago

    I was a bit surprised to find that Patreon also keeps a pretty large commission. But, yeah, at least it's not owned by Google and what else are you going to do when most creators list this as their only option. I'm just confused when there's easy options like sending cash directly to their IBAN or using a nonprofit like Liberapay (they just have their own donation page and, instead of taking a cut, make money that way: https://liberapay.com/Liberapay)

fakedang 2 days ago

Folks be adopting all sorts of irrational arguments just so they can defend their habits. Do you also prefer having middlemen in other areas such as healthcare and education?

Creators can just as easily pop a Patreon or BuyMeACoffee these days in a few clicks. In fact, most creators constantly admit that Google pays them peanuts for their view counts. But support the leviathan for reasons unknown I guess.

  • cbeley 2 days ago

    I also back people on patreon. Isn't it irrational to expect something for free? If you don't like the service or it doesn't align with your values, simply don't use it.

    Also, isn't patreon also a middleman by your definition?

    • fakedang 2 days ago

      There's a difference between a middleman that simply ensures that you're paid for your work on a fixed commission-based model, and a middleman who basically controls the entire platform you use to reach your audience. A better analogy would be OnlyFans vs a pimp.

  • WrongAssumption 2 days ago

    Patreon and BuyMeACoffee are middlemen...

    • fakedang 2 days ago

      There's a difference between a middleman that simply ensures that you're paid for your work on a fixed commission-based model, and a middleman who basically controls the entire platform you use to reach your audience. A better analogy would be OnlyFans vs a pimp.

  • j45 2 days ago

    It’s a personal choice.

    Once someone reaches a level of individual support that’s fine.

    YouTube remains a place for discovering channels and people and some people especially the majority who are not technical, can outwit a simple family fee.

    I use YouTube premium more than I ever used for paying Netflix for far longer. Value (and proven convenience) is in the eyes of the user.

    • fakedang 2 days ago

      I agree about YouTube being a platform for discovering new content, and even great content. I've even bought Premium for my parents and brother just so they wouldn't need to go through all sorts of ads on YouTube.

      I would have bought the argument of the commenter if they talked about buying Premium to support the platform. But buying Premium to support the content creators? That's a bunch of horse manure.