Comment by unyttigfjelltol 2 days ago
Your outrage is not that ICE is acting illegally but that they are enforcing US law. Having local law enforcement launch some kind of insurrection is the kind of myopic nonsense you would have condemned a few years ago, even months. Heck, for the last 50 years the Imperial Presidency also was a bipartisan consensus.
It looks different when it's your ox getting gored, but the solution is actually temperance, restraint and dialog.
I hear story after story about ICE kidnapping folks, wearing masks, not showing ID (in fact, being told _not_ to wear id). And story after story of those folks being held without the ability to consult a lawyer, or see their families, etc. And story after story of people being deported without due process. And story after story of judges saying very clearly that this is illegal. And ordering it to stop. And yet it continues.
So no, I'm not outraged that they are enforcing US law. I am outraged that they are breaking US law in the name of enforcing it. And I think they should be forced to stop it. And clearly, the judicial branch telling them it's illegal isn't getting them to stop.
> Your outrage is not that ICE is acting illegally but that they are enforcing US law.
https://www.aclu.org/news/immigrants-rights/how-ice-sidestep...
Again, I pointed out ICE is enforcing US law, and you responded with an article about Colorado law.
In a different time, public officials in such a situation would have demurred with a deft "I've read the Constitution."[1][2] I wonder what changed.
[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_preemption
[2] https://nationalpolice.org/federal-supremacy-how-conflicting...
Sure, I am familiar.
The law prevents Colorado's agencies from sharing information with ICE, instead ICE uses LexisNexis.
This can lead to things like:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonzalez_v._ICE
https://www.latimes.com/archives/story/2018-04-27/ice-held-a...
Protests are usually messy and there’s not one single reason people are upset.
Some people are upset with the deportations (US law).
Some people are upset about rescinding visas due to political speech (violation of norms).
Some people are upset because due process is being violated (law).
Some people are upset because the law enforcers are hiding their identities (norm/law).