Comment by nemomarx

Comment by nemomarx 2 days ago

19 replies

Good strategy if voting is still allowed in 2028, not super useful if political violence bubbles over into a coup or such.

The scale of the protests is encouraging, but I remember the mass protests under Bush were about as large, and the war continued and he stayed in power. Organization needs to do something with the mass of people who are out in the streets to direct them.

miki123211 2 days ago

Voting is always allowed. No matter how corrupt the country, no matter if it's ruled by a dictator, even in a "Free Democratic Union of Independent People's Republics", there's always going to be an election sooner or later.

Whether the elections are fair and the opposition is even allowed to field a candidate... now that's a different story.

bobthepanda 2 days ago

The real bellwether will be what happens in House elections in 2026.

Trump was already divisive enough that the Republican majority in the House shrank in 2024.

  • Tadpole9181 2 days ago

    And yet they hold every single branch of government.

    • matthewdgreen 2 days ago

      And this was their chance to demonstrate that they could govern, maybe even grow their gains with some demographics. They're not doing that at all.

      • Tadpole9181 2 days ago

        Like every other time? I'm not holding my breath. They're not even bothering to condemn a political assassination anymore.

    • ethbr1 2 days ago

      The chance to fix that is in 2026 at the ballot, and preparation every day until then.

      The whole "there won't be elections" hysteria is exactly because the current MAGA movement is scared shitless of being rejected again.

      Furthermore, if Trump-y candidates do poorly in 2026, he'll be a lame duck president with little political clout for his final 2 years.

      Politicians are many things, but charitable to unpopular people without power is not one of them.

      • NemoNobody 2 days ago

        Well said - this is exactly what we have to do. The Blue Wave is coming - every state.

      • immibis a day ago

        Trump promised his followers won't have to vote any more. Why would he promise that if there will be fair elections in 2026 and 2028?

      • Tadpole9181 2 days ago

        I mean, I'm voting and I'll tell everyone to vote. Support my preferences publicly, of course.

        But given the combined discrepancy between Harris vs the Attorney General in every single county of NC, the Elon contact for those voting machines, and Trump saying it out loud, I'm kind of at the point I'm not sure if the last election was legitimate. I don't have a lot of hope for 2026 or 228 since we're already past "the US military is deployed against its own citizens and make an extra-constitutonal arrest" stage with no consequences. Also the "disobey the Supreme Court" stage. But I guess we'll see and it'll be a great day to be proven wrong.

        Though, I hardly even called America a democracy before that given the intense Gerrymandering, a lack of an established right/obligation to vote, and completely disproportionate representation in legislation. The whole system is a joke in it's design.

    • NemoNobody 2 days ago

      Ah, and secured the Blue Team Generational power - tbh, with how liberal this country is going to become overnight, all this might be worth it.

      The last gasp of conservativism.

NemoNobody 2 days ago

Why did you pick Marx?

Rhetoric doesn't match. Marx literally said that the only for the working class to overthrow their oppressors (business owners) was to make them not a live.

He was very radical.

  • nemomarx 2 days ago

    I find Capital to be a fairly moderate look at the situation - a lot of it is essentially an economics textbook. Marx was almost an optimist compared to the power capital has today, if you look at his predictions.