Comment by skybrian

Comment by skybrian 3 days ago

7 replies

Nowadays we expect popular tweets to be screenshotted, just as popular webpages are usually archived somewhere.

Bluesky has decided that it’s not a bug and is not going to be fixed: you can delete a post, but someone could have saved it, and worse, it’s digitally signed.

pfraze 3 days ago

We generally would characterize the monopolies as the bug, not the public nature of the data

  • skybrian 3 days ago

    Yeah, I don’t think it’s the wrong decision. Maybe I should have called it a design tradeoff.

    Edit: editing posts is nice to have.

    • cryptonector 3 days ago

      > Yeah, I don’t think it’s the wrong decision. Maybe I should have called it a design tradeoff.

      How would you design Bluesky to prevent analog holes?

      • skybrian 2 days ago

        There's no way to do that, but it doesn't mean that people give up on privacy.

        We could contrast Bluesky with the Fediverse: a maze of independent websites with uneven distribution and no systematic search or archiving. So, if you don't have much of a following and you delete a post, it's possible that nobody saved it. Some people prefer it that way.

  • bloppe 2 days ago

    Are you saying the phenomenon is different on Twitter than on bluesky?

cryptonector 3 days ago

> Bluesky has decided that it’s not a bug and is not going to be fixed:

It's called an "analog hole". It's very difficult to prevent analog holes. By difficult I mean: impossible.

bunderbunder 3 days ago

I haven't read it in 10 years, but this used to be pretty explicitly spelled out in Twitter's privacy policy, in plain language, in a way that I really appreciated. (Not that anyone ever reads the privacy policy.)

But it really does make sense. Nothing you publicly tweet can ever be private, nor is there any real way you can reliably take it back. Because as soon as the tweet's been transferred to someone else's device, they now have every bit as much control over that content as they do over any other content that makes it onto their device.

I'm a pretty pro-privacy person, to the point where I generally avoid social media sites. But this was also my policy back when I administered an oldschool Web forum: once it's posted, it's out of your control. Period. That's really the only policy for a public forum that makes any sense at all. If that's scary to you then maybe the things you're posting should be, y'know, kept private instead of being broadcast to the entire world.

tl;dr: group chats are actually pretty cool.