Comment by msgodel

Comment by msgodel 21 hours ago

8 replies

What kind of idiot would work for free and pay taxes when they could work on their side project for free, use UBI for rent, and not pay taxes?

Probably not the industrious and productive kind I'm sure.

bryanlarsen 21 hours ago

And how would UBI change that? The kind of people who are willing to break the law to avoid paying taxes are already breaking the law to avoid paying taxes.

  • msgodel 21 hours ago

    Right but now the rest of the people have no reason to pay taxes so you're going to be printing money for everything.

    • bryanlarsen 21 hours ago

      You're reiterating my "UBI will be miserly" point. Yes, if taxes were set at 100% to support a $40k/year UBI, I would quit my six figure job to make $10/hour cutting grass under the table. OTOH, if my taxes went up 25% to support a $10K/year UBI, I wouldn't.

rbanffy 20 hours ago

> What kind of idiot would work for free and pay taxes

If you work for free, your income is zero and you won't pay taxes. You'll still get UBI though.

  • msgodel 18 hours ago

    Right so why would you do anything difficult like the hard labor required to maintain infrastructure?

    • bryanlarsen 18 hours ago

      Because you need/want more than $10k/year to live on?

    • rbanffy 14 hours ago

      The only thing that changes is that, with UBI, nobody is forced to work in degrading conditions so they can feed their children.

      • msgodel 14 hours ago

        It's absolutely not going to work if you can afford children without working. Literally zero people will do anything they don't absolutely feel like doing under that social regime.

        No country can run entirely on charity.