Comment by southernplaces7

Comment by southernplaces7 a day ago

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Your whole comment is so full of cherry-picked points, contrived arguments and bullshit in general that I don't know where to begin. You're generally arguing from bad faith and ideological fixation too.

Just a few of points though:

>A person doing what they can to make money for themselves might take a rough and underpaid job to support their future. A person "milking every dollar out of anything valuable" might frack the land and ignore the costs, start illegal wars for profit, sell arms to genocidal dictators, turn healthcare into a for-profit industry, etc. You getting it?

Say what? You're comparing an average person trying to make ends meet (presumably in some other country) with very specific, powerful, corporate or government special interests in unique positions of power to do these things in the US? You do understand that other countries also have select powerful interests doing all those things and similar for the sake of financial extraction yes?

>And America's racism and social problems are on a different level.

On which continent have their been several major wars in just the last 125 years, with ethnic cleansing and genocide as an explicit part of their tragic landscape, often supported by all kinds of regional populations? This aside from many European states also having their own enormous migrant ghettos with persistent racial tension between said immigrants and their white European neighbors.

>Name one other country in the world where 98% of voters would ever decide that arming genocide wasn't a red line.

First, did you pull the 98% out of your ass or have you a source for whatever the hell you're even talking about in this context? Secondly, many other countries sell arms to governments that have practiced genocide. I don't consider Israel a genocidal state (though its current lunatic in power is pushing the boundary) but taking that aside, it receives arms deliveries from, among others, Germany, the UK, Italy and Canada. So?

>Because Americans give to charity?? That argument doesn't track. And it's weird you think it does. Bill Gates was one of the most greedy, predatory and damaging individuals the world has ever seen; but he gives to charity to whitewash his image. You know who else gave a lot to charitable causes? Maxwell and Epstein. Citizens might give some of their disposable income, but what's that worth when they're fine with their taxes dropping bombs all over the world, funding dictators and genocidaires?

This is such a mishmash of cherry-picked stupidity that I feel silly replying, but since i'm here: What the hell do Epstein, his girlfriend or Bill Gates have to do with the general statistical tendencies of charitable giving among Americans? They neither take away from these charitable giving and tax-funded foreign aid tendencies or stain them in any way. They are separate contexts with no basis for comparison.

Also, as mentioned above, many, many countries fund dictators, or sell them weapons or contribute to dropping bombs somewhere for assorted reasons.

Generalizing isn't entirely a bad thing, but the kind you're vomiting out here is plain idiotic, ideologically fixated and loaded with ridiculously selected arguments.

mandmandam a day ago

I don't think I could ask for a better way of precisely illustrating my points. Thanks, I guess. Good luck

  • southernplaces7 18 hours ago

    The only thing I illustrated was the bizarrely cherry-picked stupidity of your specific points. Arguing with people who replace rational analysis with ideological fetishism is tedious anyhow.

    • mandmandam 9 hours ago

      Says the guy who thinks arming genocide (as called out by the UN, the Pope, every major human rights organization and the vast majority of genocide scholars) is fine - as long as other Western countries are doing it too.