Firefox is dead to me – and I'm not the only one who is fed up
(theregister.com)57 points by ofrzeta 13 hours ago
57 points by ofrzeta 13 hours ago
I was using a Chromium-based browser for a bit until I looked into how forks are handling the Mv3 changeover. Seems none them are willing to maintain Mv2 support. A couple of them claim it's fine because they have ad blocking built into the browser, but I know from experience none of them work as well as uBO. So, I switched back to Firefox where I'm plenty happy.
Personally, Tree-style tabs (via Sideberry nowadays) is why I can't let go of Firefox. Seems some browsers have started adding vertical tabs, which is cool, but missing the holy tree structure still.
A browser that blocks ads, has tree-style tabs and is FOSS would be enough for me to switch, doesn't even have to have addons/extensions if those things are built-in.
Vivaldi is what I use. uBlock works fine with it. I have no issues with content loading or anything weird. I just describe it as "chrome, but if someone actually cared about the UI and functionality", and the mouse gestures are super nice.
I went to it from Firefox ages ago and haven't looked back or missed Firefox and all its issues even once.
I can't say your experience with it will be as good as mine or not, but it is a browser with adblock, which is also built in, but I prefer the plugin version.
Not just unreadable - actively malicious. Every now and then I run into a website with a bunch of custom javascript that doesn't function in Firefox, and I'll have to open up Edge or Chromium (depending on what computer I'm using). Every time this happens, I'm immediately accosted with "features" or advertisements attempting to hijack my experience to sell me something or steal from me.
As long as Firefox supports the tools that protect me from the hostile behavior of websites, it will remain my browser of choice.
Brave re-implemented everything uBlock Origin does, and did it in Rust.
Don't use the crypto portion??
I don't know what else to tell you, you're not even paying for the browser, it's a free service. Any browser that implements an ad blocker is probably also going to have a lot of features you don't use
"crypto-aligned" is such a gigantic red herring.
so use the --disable-features flag at runtime?
maybe go into brave://flags and disable the wallet?
or just admit you're only against Brave because Brendan Eich privately donated $2,000 to a failed CA Proposition?
Yeah, outside of Chromium forks the only other option is Gecko-based browsers. I use Seamonkey and Palemoon, to avoid the Mozilla Foundation's shenanigans. The performance isn't great, and I have to occasionally restart anything running on the Gecko engine, althogh the latter is also true for Chromium forks.
Ah... I use Chrome on Linux, and it works just fine for banks and credit cards.
Same. It's exceptionally rare for Firefox to fail me and force me to use a different browser. I'm when it does happen, it's either a Chrome specific feature, or a failure of the developer.
I guess complaints are aimed at Firefox's desktop browser but mobile Firefox browser is pretty good and they are the only mobile browser that I know of that supports third party extensions. That fact by itself should be a killer app for Firefox mobile browser.
I've been using Firefox mobile browser on my not that old Samsung Galaxy S21FE for one year or more, and I can confidently say that the performance is awful. I often see delayed app loading (the navigation layer loads while the actual webview is still transparent) [1], it has a high memory usage and often caused the system to terminate another app that runs in the background at the moment. Rendering issues are also a thing. It often glitches and flashes white when opening/closing the on-screen keyboard and it blinds me for a second if using at night.
But I keep using it because I use the sync feature and it sucks less than chrome.
Normally I don't like governments stepping in for this sort of thing but good fucking God Apple has been such a poor steward of their platform that it's actually creating problems even for people who don't use it. This is one of those situations where it really is necessary.
Orion (which I believe is made by the same people that developed the Kagi search engine) supports both Firefox and Chrome extensions though it's still at the experimental stage. More importantly, I believe firefox on iOS is still backed by WebKit and thus does not support regular extensions either.
Yeah, understandable. The problem for me is the desktop app sucks. I need both for browsing sync, passwords and adblock and 3rd party search. Brave works best for me on Mac and iPhone. Most of the extensions I would use are built in, but I dont think it fully supports 3rd party extensions. I am not sure, is that possible on iPhone?
Firefox is living on for me as Zen: https://zen-browser.app/
Firefox has its problems but it's the least bad of all, and I've tried them all. Chromium-based browsers are a non-starter, Brave messed up that one big time. On the other hand, Firefox-derived browsers are used by VPNs that know how to do web privacy and security - this is the way, get Firefox, configure it properly, make a few minor changes and give your users a better option.
mozilla has tried many projects over the years. i don't remember any that survived. so i'll wait an see whether they manage to ruin firefox with AI before i switch. until then firefox is still better than chromium/chrome.
and even then unfortunately if we don't have a choice. if firefox dies the result will be a chromium based monoculture. that's not healthy. firefox may be the worst browser except for all the others.
let's see if ladybird gets any traction and manages to keep its funding continuously. but they are still a year or two away from being able to even compete with firefox and chrome.
I completely disagree. For me, Firefox is the best current browser on the whole, and in recent years I've moved most of my work and play away from Chrome, Arc, Safari, etc. in favor of Firefox. It has retained support for Manifest v2, which is huge for me. The Chrome maintainers seem hellbent on cultivating the web into an ad-addled hellscape.
Firefox would have to be seriously broken for me to consider moving away. Chromium's lack of ad blocker support is a deal breaker.
It's really depressing that you've been downvoted to grey. People don't even have coherent reasons to dislike the browser.
Show me another browser that still runs uBlock Origin.
Other browsers may be less resource intensive but with unreadable internet.