Comment by pixelpoet

Comment by pixelpoet a day ago

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> Until relatively recently, many people could get to grips with a computer only by attending a university. Now everyone has a smartphone, meaning non-graduates are adept with tech, too.

Sorry but, that's just hilarious (being able to ride a bicycle doesn't mean you can casually get in an F-35 and take off!), and must stem from a lack of understanding of computers. No wonder the author is grumpy about AI vs journalism, the AI would do a far better job here.

Anecdote: my first computer came with QBasic, and I taught myself programming basics from its excellent help; what's shipping with every mobile phone teaching Gen Z+ about programming, or even basic understanding of how files and directories work?

For some more substance to that argument, if a little dated (2021): https://www.theverge.com/22684730/students-file-folder-direc...

I don't think it's because Google or Apple don't have enough resources to ship programming tools and expose more of the underlying OS, rather a deliberate decision to reinforce passive consumption.

> Across the EU the number of 15-to-24-year-olds employed in finance

As a German, I'm dying to hear more about these 15-18 year olds illegally employed in finance! Shouldn't they be finishing high school (18) or Abitur (19)? I'm not kidding, please tell me more about these 15 year olds employed in finance, in particular!

t_mann a day ago

> As a German, I'm dying to hear more about these 15-18 year olds illegally employed in finance! Shouldn't they be finishing high school (18) or Abitur (19)? I'm not kidding, please tell me more about these 15 year olds employed in finance, in particular!

It seems that you are oddly unfamiliar with the German apprenticeship system, for a German. Nothing illegal here: https://www.sparkasse.de/karriere/schueler-und-schulabgaenge...

  • pixelpoet a day ago

    I'm familiar with the apprenticeship system of course, but AFAIK 15-18 year olds must still attend normal school 5 days a week- that doesn't equate to normal employment, right? At the very least it seems to not have anything to do with the degree vs no-degree argument.

    Actually I just looked it up and found that you can legally start working from age 13 in some circumstances! :O

    • t_mann a day ago

      The exact schedules will vary, but typically they'll have full days of either school or work. They're definitely employed and work there. Those are real jobs, even if they're not full-time. Not all adults work full-time either.

slyall a day ago

I think they mean "get to grips with a computer" to mean stuff like Word, Excel, Outlook or being able to fill in online forms and the like.

Between say 1990 and 2005 the average 20 year old might never have used a computer for anything beyond playing games.

Hence the University Degree requirement for any sort of white collar job.