Comment by cortesoft

Comment by cortesoft 3 days ago

23 replies

He played a lot smaller part than the Sackler family, who ran Purdue Pharma and pushed their drugs into communities. They killed a lot more people than this guy, and yet none of them are in jail.

tux3 3 days ago

The Sacklers are comfortably above the law and that's a bad thing, but that doesn't make small time carfentanyl operations any less bad

Evil is a threshold, it's not a competition with limited spots

Sometimes big crime families or notorious serial killers get away with it, but it doesn't lower the threshold for anyone else

It doesn't make it any better that someone else is doing even worse. You don't get to do a little crime, as a treat

  • dfxm12 3 days ago

    Focus on the bad thing, not piling on the guy who is serving his sentence (while also making a new life for himself).

    • rafaelmn 3 days ago

      I wouldn't say he's piling on him, just replying to the guy aboowho made it sound like this guy is in jail for smoking weed.

      • ipaddr 3 days ago

        A few years ago they would have been in jail. Pick the wrong state you still could end up in jail.

        Punishing is always a recipe for they punishment going back to society

  • ipaddr 3 days ago

    Evil is a religious concept.

    Selling drugs isn't evil. Not selling drug doesn't make you good. People take drugs for various reasons. If a doctor sells them they are good but if someone else sells them they are evil?

    The person buying could have been fired and can't afford Doctors prescription so the person selling could be an angel.

    • e40 3 days ago

      A doctor that over-prescribes them would be arrested, too. Or one that prescribed it to someone for a non-medical reason. (There are many of those latter docs.)

      People that sell fentanyl (or similar) are very bad for society, to avoid the triggering "evil". Look how many people have died in the last 10 years. It's insane.

      EDIT: I personally know a young man that died from a fent overdose and it's likely he didn't know what he took had fent in it. 22 years old and the whole world ahead him. Completely destroyed his family.

      • squircle 3 days ago

        They would be arrested for over prescribing now. If you look at the state of the world 20 years ago or more it looks much different from here.

    • imtringued 3 days ago

      Fentanyl takes the fun out of drugs and since its laced in every street drug these days it means that no drug is safe anymore.

      It cannot be understated how harmful fentanyl is and how low quality of a drug it is. Low quality as in the high sucks.

      (I've never taken drugs and I don't drink)

    • evidencetamper 3 days ago

      Evil is a moral concept, which is less tied to religion these days.

      Drugs are an anti-social drain on society, that sickens its buyers, turning them into zombies or criminals, and turns the sellers into greedy, violent people who corrupt law enforcement.

      Your edge case of an angel doesn't translate to the actual realities of drug trafficking and addiction.

  • cortesoft 3 days ago

    > Evil is a threshold, it's not a competition with limited spots

    No, but our enforcement has limited resources. We can't arrest and jail every offender of every crime, so we pick and choose where to spend our enforcement resources. All the money spent pursuing, arresting, trying, and imprisoning this guy could have been spent going after people like the Sacklers.

  • cess11 3 days ago

    "You don't get to do a little crime, as a treat"

    Why not? I much prefer a society in which I can get away with some crimes to one where every crime is prosecuted.

    • rangestransform 3 days ago

      Discretionary enforcement is just used as a way to disguise discrimination

      Perhaps our laws would be fairer and simpler if enforcement were draconian and uniform

      • cess11 3 days ago

        Only a minuscule portion of actual crime comes to the attention of the state.

      • rustcleaner 3 days ago

        Better a potentially discriminatory society I'm the ingroup in, than a totalitarian utopia where every criminal rule is enforced mercilessly.

BeetleB 3 days ago

Bush and his cronies resulted in the death of far more innocent people than your typical murderer. But we don't stop sending murderers to prison just because Bush/Cheney are not in prison.

I've voted for drug legalization (including possession). However, that doesn't mean that I condone all drug dealing behavior.

tptacek 3 days ago

It took something like a decade to put Capone away. We still locked up murderers during that period.

The whole thread is silly. I don't think a lot of people here are going to stick up for a 15 year stretch for a 24 year old for selling opiates. Probably don't need to pull the Sacklers into it.

  • cortesoft 3 days ago

    I don't think it is silly to be reminded of the inequalities of our penal system.

nkrisc 3 days ago

Yes, they should be in jail for longer than he is.

e40 3 days ago

Whataboutism. Selling the drug he was peddling kills people. Lots of people. This is not a “no victims” crime.

EDIT: another commentor found that it was MDMA and weed, so this discussion is purely theoretical and doesn’t apply to OP.

  • Reasoning 3 days ago

    MDMA and weed was his initial sentence. He's in prison now for selling synthetic opioids.