lewdwig 10 hours ago

In general, they’re not. But if the only thing emergent theories predict is Newtonian dynamics and General Relativity then that’s a big problem for falsifiability. But if they modify Newtonian dynamics in some way, then do we have something to test.

  • westurner 8 hours ago

    From https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43738580 :

    > FWIU this Superfluid Quantum Gravity [SQG, or SQR Superfluid Quantum Relativity] rejects dark matter and/or negative mass in favor of supervaucuous supervacuum, but I don't think it attempts to predict other phases and interactions like Dark fluid theory?

    From https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43310933 re: second sound:

    > - [ ] Models fluidic attractor systems

    > - [ ] Models superfluids [BEC: Bose-Einstein Condensates]

    > - [ ] Models n-body gravity in fluidic systems

    > - [ ] Models retrocausality

    From https://news.ycombinator.com/context?id=38061551 :

    > A unified model must: differ from classical mechanics where observational results don't match classical predictions, describe superfluid 3Helium in a beaker, describe gravity in Bose-Einstein condensate superfluids , describe conductivity in superconductors and dielectrics, not introduce unoobserved "annihilation", explain how helicopters have lift, describe quantum locking, describe paths through fluids and gravity, predict n-body gravity experiments on earth in fluids with Bernoulli's and in space, [...]

    > What else must a unified model of gravity and other forces predict with low error?

cryptonector 5 hours ago

u/lewdwig's point was that if an emergent gravity theory made the sorts of predictions that MOND is meant to, then that would be a prediction that could be tested. The MOND thing is just an example of predictions that an emergent theory might make.