Comment by mjburgess

Comment by mjburgess 10 hours ago

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Even if we take that view, gravity is still basically a similar case. What we call "gravity" is really an apparent force, that isnt a force at all when seen from a full 4d pov.

Imagine sitting outside the whole universe from t=0,t=end and observing one whole block. Then the trajectories of matter, unaffected by any force at all, are those we call gravitational.

From this pov, it makes a lot more sense to connect gravity with some orderly or disorderly features of these trajectories.

Inertia, on this view, is just a kind of hysteresis the matter distribution of the universe has -- ie., a kind of remembered deformation that persists as the universe evolves.

tsimionescu 10 hours ago

> From this pov, it makes a lot more sense to connect gravity with some orderly or disorderly features of these trajectories.

On the contrary, entropic gravity works pretty well for the Newtonian view of gravity as a force, and not the GR view of gravity as a deformation of space time and analogous to acceleration. Acceleration is a very elementary concept, one you find even in microscopic descriptions. Gravity being essentially the same thing makes it far more elementary than a concept like entropy, which only applies to large groups of particles.

So, if the GR picture is the right one, if gravity and acceleration are essentially the same thing, its very hard to see how that aligns with gravity being an emergent phenomenon that only happens at large scales. However, if gravity is just a tendency for massive objects to come together, as in the Newtonian picture, that is perfectly easy to imagine as an entropic effect.