Comment by uncircle

Comment by uncircle 12 hours ago

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Your question fascinated me. Googling "where did the Sun got its low entropy" I also came across these explanations:

"Solar energy at Earth is low-entropy because all of it comes from a region of the sky with a diameter of half a degree of arc."

also, from another reply:

"Sunlight is low entropy because the sun is very hot. Entropy is essentially a measure of how spread out energy is. If you consider two systems with the same amount of thermal energy, then the one where that energy is more concentrated (low entropy) will be hotter."

https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/796434/why-does-...

Probably it's a bit of both. I'm not sure I understand your hypothesis about the Sun scooping up empty, low-entropy space. Wasn't it formed from dusts and gases created by previous stellar explosions, i.e. the polar opposite of low entropy?

im3w1l 9 hours ago

The universe was low entropy at the time of the big bang, and even though entropy is steadily rising, the universe is still pretty low entropy.

dist-epoch 12 hours ago

I read the gravity explanation for the sun low entropy in the "Road to Reality" book from Roger Penrose. Asked Gemini to summarize the argument (scroll to end)

https://g.co/gemini/share/bd9a55da02b6

  • gattr 9 hours ago

    It's also in his previous book "The Emperor's New Mind: Concerning Computers, Minds and The Laws of Physics", along with a lot more. Strongly recommended (even though after reading a lot of Greg Egan, my views on consciousness somewhat shifted towards "classical computation can do it, too".)

    • eru 5 hours ago

      Yes, the main argument in the Emperor's New Mind seems to boil down to 'consciousness is weird, and quantum stuff is weird, so consciousness needs to be quantum'.

      If you can look past that, there's some good other material inside.