McDyver a day ago

I don't agree. They didn't get rich by creating value. They might have created value, but they got rich by keeping that value to themselves.

I would also argue that they don't create the value themselves, but their workers do. Just like that joke: a worker is admiring the boss's Ferrari, and the boss tells him "if you continue working hard, next year I'll have 2"

  • koonsolo 15 hours ago

    I'm freelance, which means I'm my own boss working for a bigger company.

    So do I fall in the category of being exploited, or do I fall into keeping all the value for myself?

  • borski 14 hours ago

    > They didn't get rich by creating value. They might have created value…

    Odd to contradict yourself with only a period separating the contradictory statements.

    > I would also argue that they don't create the value themselves, but their workers do.

    Sure, that’s fair - but those workers also have jobs and salaries because of risk the founders took to de-risk the company before the employees joined.

    The level of risk required is not everyone’s cup of tea.

    • nagaiaida 2 hours ago

      why pretend to have found a contradiction when a stronger reading of the comment is clearly that it meant to highlight the distinction between the creation of that value and its consolidation primarily into an individual's personal wealth?

slifin a day ago

Remember Forbes list is a marketing device

Do not treat it like the real list of world's richest people

  • adastra22 a day ago

    Yes these numbers are peanuts compared to the Rothschilds and Saudis of the world. But the question was about self-made billionaires, which I believe everyone on that list is.

notachatbot123 a day ago

I also create value but am not as rich. Maybe they extracted value from society by unethical means to acquire that much of it?