Chio 2 days ago

I can't share pricing details since they are confidential but if you just want to play with MIP you don't need to buy one of the big three (XPRESS, Gurobi, CPLEX) which are all very expensive but usually available for free for students. There are at least two good open source / free for non-commercial use MIP solvers available:

https://highs.dev/ https://www.scipopt.org/

  • nrclark 2 days ago

    How do those stack up against lp_solve (https://lpsolve.sourceforge.net/5.5/index.htm)?

  • wombatpm 2 days ago

    You can get a temporary free license for Gurobi. You are limited to a 1000 node problem size, but you can learn how to use the tool and set up your problem.

    If you have a problem that needs Gurobi, it’s worth paying for it. Talk with their sales team. They are happy to help you get started. They know once you know how to use it, and how it can solve problems you will be inclined to use it in the future.

    • aleph_minus_one a day ago

      > If you have a problem that needs Gurobi, it’s worth paying for it.

      Thit statement is baed on the assumption that it is a "big money" problem. On the other hand, I know lots of problems interesting to nerds for which Gurobi would help (but nerds don't have the money).

      • zozbot234 a day ago

        If you have a "nerdy" problem you can probably get someone to write it up as a research paper and then it would easily fall under the academic license. To some extent, if you're buying a commercial license you're just paying for secrecy.

  • steine65 a day ago

    Their price list wasn't that confidential last I spoke with the sales team. It depends on the license type. Last I heard, it's around $15k/year for a standard subscription license. You can probably trial it for free, or be a student and have longer free access.

  • antman 2 days ago

    Ortools by google had good benchmarks

RainyDayTmrw 2 days ago

What I've heard - and obviously I can't confirm this - is that their only pricing tier is "call us" - at which point they try to figure out how much money you're making and ask for a slice of it.

almostgotcaught 2 days ago

I don't know why people think it's such a deeply shrouded secret - it's ~10k a seat for a core-limited license.

  • 0cf8612b2e1e 2 days ago

    Heh, given all of the whispering, I was imagining something 10x the price. I am a nobody and have at least one license to a different product that is some $13k annual.

edot 2 days ago

It’s much cheaper than making suboptimal decisions slowly. Free solvers are fine for small problems (GLPK, for example), but lots of business problems are pretty much impossible to solve in the timeframe required unless you fork over cash for a premium solver (Gurobi being the best).

quanto 2 days ago

The last time I checked about a decade ago, a full license with multiple users and on a server was around 100k USD. I don't recall exact number of seats or server count restrictions.

I want to add that, for many in the industry, it is well worth the price.

cschmidt 2 days ago

Gurobi does have a cloud service where you pay by the hour. A full non-academic license is pricy.

7thaccount 2 days ago

The best MIP solvers (CPLEX, GUROBI, FICO) are all extremely expensive unless you're an academic. The free ones are fine for smaller problems. Some like Mosek are quite affordable and a good middle ground. To most organizations, the cost is reasonable for what they're getting.

__alexs 2 days ago

It's not cheap but actually quite reasonable and the quality is very good vs free solvers. If you are building a product that needs MILP it's worth it.

  • aleph_minus_one a day ago

    > If you are building a product that needs MILP it's worth it.

    Rather: if you are building a product that will for sure make a lot of money, and needs MILP, it's worth it.

    A lot of product concepts that nerds create are very innovate, but are often some private side projects.

    • __alexs 21 hours ago

      The on demand pricing is pretty reasonable.

      • aleph_minus_one 20 hours ago

        > The on demand pricing is pretty reasonable.

        Test case for your claim: someone privately intensively develops some open-source product that uses Gurobi as optimization backend. I guess on-demand will become very expensive.

jcd000 a day ago

For us it was more than 10x the price of CPLEX.