ghaff 6 days ago

It wasn't the Itanium people so much as the industry analysts who follow such things. And, yes, they (including myself) were spectacularly wrong early on but, hey, it was Intel after all and an AMD alternative wasn't even a blip on the radar and 64-bit chips were clearly needed. I'm not sure there was any industry analyst--and I probably bailed earlier than most--who was going this is going to be a flop from the earliest days.

  • jorvi 6 days ago

      an AMD alternative wasn't even a blip on the radar
    
    Aside from it not being 64bit initially uh.. did we live through the same time period? The Athlons completely blew the Intel competition out of the water. If Intel hadn't heavily engaged in market manipulation, AMD would have taken a huge bite out of their marketshare.
    • ghaff 6 days ago

      In the 64-bit server space, which is really what's relevant to this discussion, AMD was pretty much not part of the discussion until Dell (might have been Compaq at the time) and Sun picked them up as a supplier in the fairly late 2000s. Yes, Intel apparently played a bunch of dirty pool but that was mostly about the desktop at the time which the big suppliers didn't really care about.

      • kcb 6 days ago

        Opteron was a much bigger deal than you're making it sound. Market share was up to 25%.

ashdksnndck 6 days ago

It’s understandable why companies try and sometimes succeed at creating a reality distortion field about the future success of their products. Management is asking Wall Street to allow them to make this huge investment (in their own salaries and R&D empire), and they need to promise a corresponding huge return. Wall Street always opportunities to jack up profits in the short term, and management needs to tell a compelling story about ROI that is a few years in the future to convince them it’s worth waiting. Intel also wanted to encourage adoption by OEMs and software companies, and making them think that they need to support Itanium soon could have been a necessary condition to make that a reality.

I don’t know what factors would make IEA underestimate solar adoption.

  • duskwuff 6 days ago

    > I don’t know what factors would make IEA underestimate solar adoption.

    The IEA is an energy industry group from back in the days where "energy" primarily meant fossil fuels (i.e. the 1970s), and they've never entirely gotten away from that mentality.

    • immibis 6 days ago

      There are trillions of dollars on the line in convincing people not to buy solar panels or other renewable sources.

      Remember all the conspiracy theories about how someone invented a free energy machine and the government had to cover it up? Well they're actually true - with the caveat that the free energy machine only works in direct sunlight.

  • jacobolus 6 days ago

    The IEA's purpose is to boost fossil fuels + nuclear?

  • AbstractH24 5 days ago

    How often are they reality distortion fields vs leadership trying to put on a face to rally the troops and investors? How do you do the second without the first?

    Something I ponder from time to time, while trying to figure out how to be less of a cynic and more of a leader.

  • lotsofpulp 5 days ago

    > Management is asking Wall Street to allow them to make this huge investment (in their own salaries and R&D empire), and they need to promise a corresponding huge return. Wall Street always opportunities to jack up profits in the short term, and management needs to tell a compelling story about ROI that is a few years in the future to convince them it’s worth waiting

    Explain Amazon, Uber, Spotify, Tesla, and other publicly listed businesses that had low or even negative profit margins for many years.

    The idea that Wall Street only rewards short term profit margins is laughable considering who is at the top of the market cap rankings.

    • ashdksnndck 5 days ago

      The section of my comment you quoted directly addresses this! Wall Street can be convinced by a compelling story.

dylan604 6 days ago

one thing I found amazing about the IEA chart is how similar the colors of each year was making it very difficult to see which year was which. the gist of the chart was still clear though